Volvo D4-300 - suspiciously consistent engine temp reading

aculverwell

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C-302 SC
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Red Sky
Since taking delivery of my R31CB (with Volvo D4-300), I have noted with some suspicion that once the engine warms up-- the engine temp reading never moves off 185 degrees. In other words, once it gets to 185, it never goes up or down even a single degree no matter my speed or other conditions. The temp on my previous tug-- an R27 (Yanmar 4BY2-180)-- used to fluctuate quite a bit. I would love to think that the Volvo engine and cooling system are so great that they remain in perfect balance at all times, but I confess to being suspicious of electrical trickery. Anyone else with a Volvo D4-300 share the same overly consistent readings?
 
I have exactly the same 185 degree reading on my '16 C30 with a D6-435. Same suspicions as you.
 
My D6 holds dead on 185. However, I noticed it climbing at over 90 percent rpm to WOT just recently. Finally figured out my HX was scaling. Worked up to over 200 before I chickened out and backed down the rpm. Back down to 185 now after working on it.

Another time I forgot to open the seacock. I was idling out and the alarm went off. Display read 206.

So it does work. No magic numbers.
 
After warming up, my Volvo D4-300 engine temp runs constantly at 185, unless I run near or at WOT. At near or WOT, the temp suddenly jumps to 195-197, then settles back to 185 when I back off a few hundred RPM.

I was so concerned about this that I questioned the Volvo certified mechanic that I use from Diversified Yacht Services in Fort Myers Beach, FL. He told me that, with the temp gauge being totally electronic, Volvo was able to purposely manipulate the displayed temp to always be 185, even though the actual coolant temp in practice does vary from 185 under normal cruising conditions. Their approach is if the actual coolant temp rises above a certain threshold it jumps to that new actual temp on the gauge, otherwise the gauge simply shows 185. Same type of threshold jump occurs when the actual temp falls a certain amount.

I asked why Volvo took this approach in displaying coolant temp. He stated that they primarily do that to eliminate a lot of the worries and questions from customers about what is a reasonable temp, ESPECIALLY with twin engine boats. With twin engines, many customers seem to think their coolant temps should be identical. If they are off from each other by only a couple of degrees, the customers think something serious is wrong.

He then told me to run WOT periodically to see what happened on the gauge. If it simply jumped to 195-197 then stayed there until backing off on the throttle, all was okay. If it continued to rise above 195-197 at WOT, then there is likely a problem with a water flow issue of some type - partially plugged sea strainer, or partial obstruction in the heat exchanger, etc. When I do as he asked, I get exactly the results that he predicted. So, I have concluded that I have no raw water obstruction issues.

CAUTION: Although I got this information from a certified mechanic, it did NOT come from the Volvo factory or their factory representative, so take it for what it is worth!
 
Dale777":snszdri0 said:
...I asked why Volvo took this approach in displaying coolant temp. He stated that they primarily do that to eliminate a lot of the worries and questions from customers about what is a reasonable temp...
If you've ever been the person that has to respond to all the questions you'd understand. I've done very similar things over the course of my career. Some people are just happier seeing life the way they think it should be rather than the way it is. So why deprive them of their fantasy? 😀
 
Most cars built since 2000 are this way, the temp gauge is just an idiot light/gauge. On two of my cars, any time the engine is between 160dF and 200dF, the gauge reads 190dF. It is done to keep folks happy and from questioning too much. One of my cars has two temp sensors, one drives the idiot gauge, the other goes to the ECU so the ECU knows exactly what the engine temp is for emission control purposes. It wouldn't surprise me if the newer boat engines were the same way, for the same reasons.
 
Dale777 wrote: He told me that, with the temp gauge being totally electronic, Volvo was able to purposely manipulate the displayed temp to always be 185, even though the actual coolant temp in practice does vary from 185 under normal cruising conditions. Their approach is if the actual coolant temp rises above a certain threshold it jumps to that new actual temp on the gauge, otherwise the gauge simply shows 185. Same type of threshold jump occurs when the actual temp falls a certain amount.


Connerkip":3phxupzw said:
My D6 holds dead on 185. However, I noticed it climbing at over 90 percent rpm to WOT just recently. Finally figured out my HX was scaling. Worked up to over 200 before I chickened out and backed down the rpm. Back down to 185 now after working on it.


Thanks to Dale for that great explanation - the digital gauge is (as Mike said) simply a semi-smart idiot light. I'm buying it, but C-Kip's post above made me wonder. How does one descale the heat exchanger? The learning curve continues ever upward.
 
Michael,

Search under General Technical for “Volvo Heatexchanger Flush Procedure” and you will find one for the D3. If may be similar to what is needed for the D4.

I am glad the D3 looks like it provides the current temperature. I want to see the trends not all off a sudden find I am in trouble.

Richard
 
i have the 260d4 in the 28 it holds a magic 185 under load. if we are sitting at idle while fishing the temp drops to 165 after a while so it definitely is not a fixed number I just think the cooling system is effectively controlled.
 
dclagett":2gmkwtz6 said:
Michael,

Search under General Technical for “Volvo Heatexchanger Flush Procedure” and you will find one for the D3. If may be similar to what is needed for the D4.

I am glad the D3 looks like it provides the current temperature. I want to see the trends not all off a sudden find I am in trouble.

Richard

Thanks Richard, but after reading through the procedure, I think I'll write a check to my mechanic. 😉
 
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