Any advice for changing head hoses on a 2019 R 29?

mlanger

mlanger

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Do It Now
The head odor is out of control on my R 29 and I understand that the best way to fix it is to replace the head hoses. Because the boat is on a charter program, I'm going to be required to do it anyway. I have a maintenance pro lined up to do the job, but in my never-ending quest to save money by doing things myself, is this the kind of thing I could do myself? Has anyone done this on an R 29? Are there any existing how to guide guides on tackling this project?
 
I would guess your hoses are good. I took out my toilet recently because it was totally plugged. Before that it smelled, yet not too bad. I replaced joker valve. I roto-rotored main line with a 25ft drill attachment. It will be almost impossible to do a good job manually. All white vinyl hoses were in great condition and they looked like they would last a lifetime. The white hoses are bonded and clamped on. Very hard to remove hoses without cutting. Make sure you get the right joker valve. The first one I put in was 0.050 undersized diameter. It doesn't matter if it is a cross slit or 3 way slit. Maria, It is a job that you can handle! Some people recommend the the chemical warfare, like CH. You still have to get to the joker valve. Some kind of chemical would be good to a routine maintenance to keep crusty stuff from building up. This is in addition to chemical at pump out each time. I am trying vinegar ( half gallon) monthly to prevent crusty buildup in pipes.
 
No need to replace the hose or root rooter it. Chemical cleaning works fast and easy. There are several acid based cleaners you can use including Raritan CH (Cleans Hoses) designed for this. I have used Barnacle Buster with good results which I understand is similar but it is not sold specifically for toilets so the CH is probably a safer bet.

Vinegar is a great regular maintenance step to keep it clean.

C. H. Cleans Hoses | Raritan Engineering

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Mastercraft said:
I would guess your hoses are good. I took out my toilet recently because it was totally plugged. Before that it smelled, yet not too bad. I replaced joker valve. I roto-rotored main line with a 25ft drill attachment. It will be almost impossible to do a good job manually. All white vinyl hoses were in great condition and they looked like they would last a lifetime. The white hoses are bonded and clamped on. Very hard to remove hoses without cutting. Make sure you get the right joker valve. The first one I put in was 0.050 undersized diameter. It doesn't matter if it is a cross slit or 3 way slit. Maria, It is a job that you can handle! Some people recommend the the chemical warfare, like CH. You still have to get to the joker valve. Some kind of chemical would be good to a routine maintenance to keep crusty stuff from building up. This is in addition to chemical at pump out each time. I am trying vinegar ( half gallon) monthly to prevent crusty buildup in pipes.
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Joker valve. I have heard this before. I looked at the hoses (where I can see them) and they look great. But the head reeks when I flush. I'll do some more homework.
 
Red Raven said:
No need to replace the hose or root rooter it. Chemical cleaning works fast and easy. There are several acid based cleaners you can use including Raritan CH (Cleans Hoses) designed for this. I have used Barnacle Buster with good results which I understand is similar but it is not sold specifically for toilets so the CH is probably a safer bet.

Vinegar is a great regular maintenance step to keep it clean.

C. H. Cleans Hoses | Raritan Engineering

Raritan C.H. Cleans Hoses restores marine sanitation hoses by removing scale, buildup, and odors—easy-to-use, effective, and safe for all marine plumbing.
raritaneng.com
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I'll probably look into this before the joker valve or hose replacement. Thanks!

The boat is currently out of the water for the winter. It seems to me that letting this stuff slosh around in the system as I trailer the boat back to Bellingham might give it a chance to do it's thing. Unfortunately, I don't think the head tank is completely empty and I'm not sure if I can rig something up to empty it while it's parked in my garage.
 
mlanger said:
I'll probably look into this before the joker valve or hose replacement. Thanks!

The boat is currently out of the water for the winter. It seems to me that letting this stuff slosh around in the system as I trailer the boat back to Bellingham might give it a chance to do it's thing. Unfortunately, I don't think the head tank is completely empty and I'm not sure if I can rig something up to empty it while it's parked in my garage.
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I have emptied mine before storing the boat using a 16 Gallon shop vac. With vacuum sitting on the ground the suction hose just reaches. This avoids having to lift the vacuum. It will pull out most of what is in the discharge line from the head to the black water tank and will clear out the vent line also. I'll leave the rest to your imagination, but I carefully transfer waste to a 5 gallon bucket and then properly dispose of the same. If you have an outdoor clean out cap on your sewer line, this avoids a trip indoors. The box stores have a 2" to 1 1/4" reducer for the vac hose that fits nicely in the pump-out fitting, no threaded adapter needed.
For obvious reasons the filter should be removed from the vac before starting and rinse out the vac tank and let it dry before reassembling same. Same procedure to suck out the other discharges from sink drains, bilge pumps, etc. for winter. I do not suck out the exhaust. Need some liquid in there for spring startup. (Water, antifreeze, depending on location)
 
PanaSeaAh said:
I have emptied mine before storing the boat using a 16 Gallon shop vac. With vacuum sitting on the ground the suction hose just reaches. This avoids having to lift the vacuum. It will pull out most of what is in the discharge line from the head to the black water tank and will clear out the vent line also. I'll leave the rest to your imagination, but I carefully transfer waste to a 5 gallon bucket and then properly dispose of the same. If you have an outdoor clean out cap on your sewer line, this avoids a trip indoors. The box stores have a 2" to 1 1/4" reducer for the vac hose that fits nicely in the pump-out fitting, no threaded adapter needed.
For obvious reasons the filter should be removed from the vac before starting and rinse out the vac tank and let it dry before reassembling same. Same procedure to suck out the other discharges from sink drains, bilge pumps, etc. for winter. I do not suck out the exhaust. Need some liquid in there for spring startup. (Water, antifreeze, depending on location)
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Thanks for all this, but I think I may be able to attach a hose to the macerator's through hull fitting. I have an RV dump in my garage and another on my driveway.
 
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