R27 Galvanic Isolator

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Does anyone have advice on how to install a galvanic isolator in 2019 R27? What's the best location to mount unit and splice the ground wire? Video or photos would be great. The corrosion on lower unit is bad.
 
This is a video I made for the R43, I imagine the general install should be similar. Probably don't need the higher amp rating.

 
Just under the breaker panel, on the carpeted / insulated nook just below.

Make sure you get a failsafe version. Older models (even some still sold) have a nasty fail condition.

The installation itself is pretty easy. Just make sure you have proper crimping and cables, preferably to ABYC standards. I'll be honest, despite being an easy one -- I hired someone to do it. I promised the Admiral I'd never play with AC mains again. 🙂
 
Before I installed the isolator my divers were replacing zincs every month. With the isolator the zincs last 5-6 months. Well worth the $250 bucks it cost me.

Ralph
 
Before I installed the isolator my divers were replacing zincs every month. With the isolator the zincs last 5-6 months. Well worth the $250 bucks it cost me.

Ralph

Are you in an older marina? Or are there older boats docked nearby?
 
Are you in an older marina? Or are there older boats docked nearby?
Both. I moved to a different slip about 50 yards away and corrosion is the same. It stops when off shore power so the ground isolator should work/help. I only go on shore power during the winter to use heaters.
 
It's unlikely to move the needle immediately but make sure you let the marina know there's stray current.

Also, depending on your insurance and the root cause of the stray current -- you might have a claim. I make no advice on if it makes sense to do so.
 
Hmm, mine had one installed in the battery(engine) lazarette when I bought the boat. I probably should replace it as it is old‍♂️
 
Hmm, mine had one installed in the battery(engine) lazarette when I bought the boat. I probably should replace it as it is old‍♂️
 
It's unlikely to move the needle immediately but make sure you let the marina know there's stray current.

Also, depending on your insurance and the root cause of the stray current -- you might have a claim. I make no advice on if it makes sense to do so.
Unrelated issues, and no it doesn't make sense.

DC voltage/current causes corrosion, not AC current. Marinas are almost never a cause of corrosion, it's just a common myth. The galvanic isolator is needed because ABYC recommends we connect the AC grounding conductor to our DC ground in one place for safety reasons. This ties every boat in the marina to the same DC ground potential through the AC grounding conductor. If one boat has lots of anodes and the boat next to it has no anodes, then one boat will be protecting the other and the anodes are wasted more quickly. The galvanic isolator breaks this connection for DC voltage differences along the AC grounding conductor, but allows AC current to flow in the event of a fault.

Stray current corrosion is also caused by DC voltage, not AC. Stray current corrosion is the result of a positive DC voltage applied to an underwater metal on a boat and will quickly destroy the underwater metal. It won't affect another boat, and you don't get stray current corrosion from another boat. You don't get stray current corrosion from AC wiring in a marina, it is always caused by a positive DC voltage.

The bottom line is that any boat that is stored in a marina with a shore power connection should have a galvanic isolator or isolation transformer (also breaks the AC grounding conductor from bringing DC voltage on board) installed. Unfortunately very few manufacturers install them on new builds. Sometimes boats get away without galvanic isolators for a while if they are the 'leach' boat and are using up the anodes of their neighbors to protect their boat, but eventually galvanic corrosion issues will develop without the isolator.
 
Hmm, mine had one installed in the battery(engine) lazarette when I bought the boat. I probably should replace it as it is old‍♂️
Almost all of the galvanic isolators built after about 2005 are 'Fail Safe' meaning that if they fail they will still allow AC current to flow on the grounding conductor but they may not stop the DC current that causes corrosion. It's usually only lightening strikes that causes them to fail. You can test it by using the diode setting on a multimeter and checking across the disconnected galvanic isolator and you should see the 'breakover voltage' of the diode, around .8 to 1.2 volts, which tells you it is still functioning. You will see voltage rise slowly as there is also a capacitor in the circuit, but you'll see zero ohms or open if the GI has failed.
 
Just under the breaker panel, on the carpeted / insulated nook just below.

Make sure you get a failsafe version. Older models (even some still sold) have a nasty fail condition.

The installation itself is pretty easy. Just make sure you have proper crimping and cables, preferably to ABYC standards. I'll be honest, despite being an easy one -- I hired someone to do it. I promised the Admiral I'd never play with AC mains again. 🙂
I looked at your suggested location (nook/cave next to AC panel). I have room. Is that entire panel with all the monitors and controls removable?
 
I looked at your suggested location (nook/cave next to AC panel). I have room. Is that entire panel with all the monitors and controls removable?
I would worry more about getting it in the right position 'electrically' than its physical location. Like some of the others mentioned I put mine in the battery compartment, electrically it was in between the shore inlet and the ELCI breaker. The important thing is that it's in the AC grounding conductor BEFORE that conductor is tied into the DC negative system, so the closer to the shore inlet the better.
 
I would worry more about getting it in the right position 'electrically' than its physical location. Like some of the others mentioned I put mine in the battery compartment, electrically it was in between the shore inlet and the ELCI breaker. The important thing is that it's in the AC grounding conductor BEFORE that conductor is tied into the DC negative system, so the closer to the shore inlet the better.
I agree. Getting to the shore power ground cond from the STBD lazarette is a pain. If I can remove the panel with the AC panelboard, I’d have easy access to the ground conductor. That’s where it goes/terminates. Once the cond is cut, I can run the spliced conductors and mount the isolator anywhere.
 
Have you thought about intercepting the shore power ground by taking out the receptacle on the side of the boat and accessing it there? See video.
 
Almost all of the galvanic isolators built after about 2005 are 'Fail Safe' meaning that if they fail they will still allow AC current to flow on the grounding conductor but they may not stop the DC current that causes corrosion.

I think ABYC put it into code in.... 2009? Worthwhile to check.
 
The newer r27s have the GI right after the shore power and before the main breaker. On the bulkhead, sbd lazarette. Remember wherever you have it, you need to be able to test it once a year, or after any lightening strike, etc. As to replacing..
They have no moving parts, so they dont wear out. If they pass test, theyre still good.
 
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