AC with soft start system while underway

Daveruegger":31psr520 said:
Skiphoyt are you running a Diesel or the outboard?, I have an 2021, R27 OB LE with factory AC soft start 3 house bats. Best I have been able to get is about 4 hrs, The OB only generates 40 amp hours at cruse. The AC eats right round 90AH. Right around 4 to 5 hrs my battery are reaching there max drain with out killing them. I have been using the Hondia generator 2000eu while on the hook tie in to my shore power to run the AC at night. Working on a way to run the generator while cruising And keeping the cockpit clear of wires and trip hazards. Special while trolling and fishing of the back.
Great information. I have the Yamaha OB and my trips with AC have all been under 4 hours so I didn’t notice the battery level. I do have 5 batteries onboard with an extra one added along with the soft start by dealer before delivery. Someone mentioned lithium might help but it sounds like a losing battle if 90AH out and 40AH in!
 
Daveruegger,
I have my Honda generator mounted in an aluminum tray that I made with Honda generator feet on the bottom. I mounted it on my swim platform on the port side. The tray gives me 6 inches of protection from backwash. I leave it back there when cruising in calm water not rough water. The AC will work up to about 15 mph in calm water. As soon as air gets under the hull the AC quits and has E1 code. If you would like a photo email me at kenkeir@gmail.com
KKRCRACE
 
KKRCRACE":3tdda8a4 said:
Daveruegger,
I have my Honda generator mounted in an aluminum tray that I made with Honda generator feet on the bottom. I mounted it on my swim platform on the port side. The tray gives me 6 inches of protection from backwash. I leave it back there when cruising in calm water not rough water. The AC will work up to about 15 mph in calm water. As soon as air gets under the hull the AC quits and has E1 code. If you would like a photo email me at kenkeir@gmail.com
KKRCRACE
Do you think a ‘scoop’ type hull fitting would keep the water flowing on plane? It doesn’t appear that the inlet is out of the water on plane just skimming over it.
 
My guess is that it will help. It depends on how rough the water is and also the turns you make. My C24 likes to cruise at 25 plus and I am sure that I can not make the AC work at that speed. If your boat can cruise faster and stay in the water your AC will work up to a point. Even if its in the water at a certain speed it will probably pull the water out of the intake. That is when the scoop will help. I hope this helps.
KKRCRACE
 
Skiphoyt, I’m have the same set up 3 house batteries, they had to add the extra one or you would not have enough juice. You will also want to install a battery Monitor. This will let you know where you stand in AH. I watch that thing like a gas gage :shock: . I do plan to upgrade to the lithium batteries down the road once the AGM start to give in. That will give you way more amp hours, Be much lighter and last longer. That’s a win, win, win. They just cost a lot right now.
 
Kkrcrace I’m looking at using the gen box in the link and attaching an aux fuel tank on top with some straps. No more late night re fuel if the generator 😳. I have the kicker motor so there will not be much room on the swim platform. And I will have to run a cord over to shore power, just seems like a lot going in the cockpit, was trying to keep it clean. Helps when you get on fish.
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oceaneyes":3djfe6es said:
Skiphoyt, I can’t remember where but I read they are starting to modify AC systems in the c24 to run the AC from an inverter. Exactly what you said, keep RPMs up to get alternator amperage up so batteries remain charged. The soft start system probably helps the compressor kick on without such a harsh amp draw (capacitor maybe?). You will probably only get 4 hours and I’d install a Victron shunt so you can easily monitor battery conditions. I have my shunt connected to my house bank only but you can connect multiple banks. I would think that could be a good way to destroy batteries if you drain them too far.

My victron shunt is Bluetooth so I can monitor batteries from my phone. Also, I can run my AC fan off my inverter. The compressor will not run off the inverter but I use the fan to circulate air.

It sounds like your issue is not starting and running the AC from your inverter, but water flow. Sometimes if you turn hard the water pick up comes out of the water so your pump may lose prime. Have you checked the pump at slow speeds or stopped? If the pump works and the system works at slow speeds you may just need to go slower or avoid sharp turns. I’m not sure a scoop will be practical - I’ve never heard of one. I have heard people relocating their thru hulls... which doesn’t sound fun.

If you’d like more information on a shunt let me know.

Lastly, I looked at a 2007 scout aback 262 that had a factory installed Marvair AC system that ran off battery alone. The technology exists so this isn’t surprising.

Good luck!

I owned a Scout 262 with the 12 volt Marvair AC in 2007. Batteries barely lasted an hour. 🙂
 
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