Advice for Cruisin' with Kids?

swillmerchant

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Hello everyone,
We're saving up for our first tug - probably a R25. We have a 5 year old boy who loved climbing all over the tug we toured at the Boston Boat Show recently. Anyone care to share advice about cruising with young kids? Are there any tricks to keep them contented while cruising? I'm guessing the key is to bring along plenty of food, take the time to stop and get some ice cream along the way, and integrating them with the operation of the vessel. I'm really interested to hear your thoughts and your stories.
Thanks,
Doug
 
As much as I hate to say it electronics like TV, play station etc may help especially when the weather keeps the youngster inside. If they enjoy books or being read to I highly recommend a Kindle that also has games loaded on it.
 
Another good idea is to have them bring a friend along on your outings. Buy a couple of real good young children life jackets and start them out wearing them from the minute they get on the boat.

Jim
 
Make that PFD suggestion that they wear them the minute they get near the dock. At the ramp, at the dock, on the boat. Keep 'em safe!
 
Doug: First order of business IMO is... Make sure your 5 year old can swim.

I once made the mistake a long time ago of not asking my fellow sailor about his swim skills until we were capsized and hanging on to the drop keel waiting for help. I almost sank into the muddy waters with embarrassment for having made that mistake.

We have 4 grandchildren and I've already made it quite clear they need swim classes before they can board. I've already taught two of them to swim and to not be afraid of being in the water.

Electronic gadgets might include iPhone, iPad, computer. If they have GPS have a Nav application for hime to track the boat.
Jigsaw puzzles
Books
Give him a task, such as being the 'lookout'.
Teach him chartrmanship skills
Tell him all about the boat and be sure to indicate switches that must be left alone
Use of the cave area will give him some privacy
Have a Knots application on the iPad and with two pieces of line he can practice knot making
Show him how to use binoculars... he can have fun looking up close to things around the boat... part of being the 'lookout'
When using the VHF to speak with on-the-water boat friends have him make the call
 
We've been cruising with our daughter since she was 5 years old and now she is 12... Time flys doesn't it? The past year was our first with our "big " boat, a R-27. She get the cave and loves it. As far as things we planned for her when we traveled when she was 5, we looked for marinas with pools (not common here in the PNW), but the relatively warm waters up along the BC mainland coast gave us lots of swimming time. Playgrounds are also helpful when moored or anchored. She has always enjoyed being a dock rat, exploring the sea life and terrorizing the small fish and animal life by temporarily putting them on exhibit for fellow cruisers. Kids also get together and make friends and can keep each other entertained. Ice cream is also a hit when you can find it. We sometimes rent a scooter and explore the ports we visit and she has grown to enjoy shopping. Can you imagine? As far as keeping her entertained whilst we are underway, things have changed over the years. She is no longer interested in the journey but more the destination. Knots are a good thing to learn, which she did, but now it's knitting. Kids can be lots of help and I think they appreciate being given purposeful tasks on the boat such as organizing lines, keeping watch for short periods of time, helping to choose destinations and routes along the way. Lots of learning can happen if they show an interest. Bring bubbles, a ball, water toys and stuff to share with other kids along the way. We met a family 7 years ago and still try to meet up with them each year. We have allowed her to use window markers to decorate certain windows. In the Ranger Tug, we can have a friend come for short periods of time. She LOVES my smart phone and uses it more than I'd like. The DVD player is good as are games, cards, art supplies and other family oriented activities for time at anchor. Of course, exploring with the dinghy, beach combing and hiking are great ways to appreciate the places we visit.its fun to watch the growth kids make over the years while boating. The R-25 will be an awesome boat for your family, but don't be surprised if you find yourself pining for a R-27, 29, or 31 :roll:

Ray
 
Thanks for your insight everyone! Great suggestions Thankfully, our son's preschool has taught him to swim (thanks YMCA!) and we insist he wear his PFD before even hitting the dock. I'm still learning about cruising in New England, so I haven't thought about any routes other than to go up to Acadia National Park or down to the Cape and Islands, but am excited to start planning. One route I have planned is to drop him off at his t-ball game in an adjacent city via the tug. What a way to commute!

Ray, I'm already pining for a R27, but alas, we don't have the money just yet. If we could find a used R27, maybe that would be a different story, but there just aren't any used ones on the market. I wonder why? 😉 We want to start off soon, so maybe we'll move up to a R27 closer to retirement.
Doug
 
Just one caveat. . . Explain that the helm and electrical panels are not an electronic toy!
 
swillmerchant":1co5tdex said:
Thanks for your insight everyone! Great suggestions Thankfully, our son's preschool has taught him to swim (thanks YMCA!) and we insist he wear his PFD before even hitting the dock. I'm still learning about cruising in New England, so I haven't thought about any routes other than to go up to Acadia National Park or down to the Cape and Islands, but am excited to start planning. One route I have planned is to drop him off at his t-ball game in an adjacent city via the tug. What a way to commute!

Ray, I'm already pining for a R27, but alas, we don't have the money just yet. If we could find a used R27, maybe that would be a different story, but there just aren't any used ones on the market. I wonder why? 😉 We want to start off soon, so maybe we'll move up to a R27 closer to retirement.
Doug

Don't forget beautiful Rhode Island is not far away. Cruise Narraganstt Bay, stay over in Newport Harbor, tour Newport and the mansions. Cruise out to Block Island and spend some time exploring the island.
 
And teach that the water in and around the boats in a marina is not something to intentionally swim in. You may or may not want to explain why (risk of paralyzing electrocution from stray current). But give the kids some explanation for why to be extra careful and stay out of the water in a marina.
 
Crewdog":2aerx5di said:
How about some fun at the end of the day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKM1TdUVC8s

The R/C tugs are available at several different sources.

Now that's cool... I have an R/C USCG motor lifeboat model that's in the finishes touches of being completed over the winter months. I must accelerate my final work on it to have it ready for fun & games at the marinas this year. I suspect boys & girls also will like this activity. I must make it watertight as the real boat is capable of capsizing and rolling completely around without issues. Have any of you ever seen a live demonstration of this being done to a USCG Motor Lifeboat ?
 
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Crewdog":2qzf9ywm said:
How about some fun at the end of the day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKM1TdUVC8s

The R/C tugs are available at several different sources.

Now that's cool... I have an R/C USCG motor lifeboat model that's in the finishes touches of being completed over the winter months. I must accelerate my final work on it to have it ready for fun & games at the marinas this year. I suspect boys & girls also will like this activity. I must make it watertight as the real boat is capable of capsizing and rolling completely around without issues. Have any of you ever seen a live demonstration of this being done to a USCG Motor Lifeboat ?

I've seen the motor lifeboat training videos off the Columbia River. Incredible footage! Will your RC one be able to flip over as well? Good luck finishing it! I'd love to see the end results of your hard work.

When I was a kid, I saved up my paper route money for a remote control submarine. It had workable 8" torpedoes and you could rig up a camera to see while diving. My father wouldn't let me get one for fear that I'd terrorize ducks and geese in the nearby pond. I still wonder what it would be like to build and run one. Maybe I'll have to start building one with my son.
 
This reference of the 44' USCG Motor Lifeboat is the one I'm building a model of. The ref shows how well it does in a complete roll/capsize. I just love this boat.... and frequent the USCG Museum is Astoria, WA at the mouth of the Columbia river.

http://44mlb.com/self-righting.htm
 
I have this 47' USCG Motor Lifeboat in model form as well... bought it at the Astoria, WA USCG Museum... but it's still in its box for my next winter's project.

USCG%2044-foot%20Motor%20Lifeboat.jpg
 
We've had our son on our 2007 R-25 with us since he was 2:



and have been boating with him since he was six months old:


(many more pics in our album)

He loves the boat. He loves his 'room' back in the cave. He keeps his toys and stuffed animals there. We bring him books and a DVD player for movies and, last year, a Kindle Fire. He plays on the dinette table, lays in the forward berth to watch movies, listens to music on the stereo, hangs out and watches the scenery and is never bored. If he goes out to the cockpit he wears a life vest...always. Inside he does not. The law here does not require life vests inside. The reason is that if the boat sinks, the child is unable to get out because they are pushed to the top of the cabin. It makes sense. That being said, we have installed hooks by the door and always hang our life vests up when not in use. He knows where his is always and how to get into it on his own. At night we lock the door so he doesn't wander outside (not so important now that he is 8). He loves to swim but it is only allowed when we are outside with him. Last year he started jumping off of the bow and swimming back to the swim platform. He's a little fish!

Last year I also taught him how to start and stop the outboard (a little 2.2hp) on the dingy and he was so proud when we jumped in the dingy and he started it up and we cruised over to the dock to pick up his mom and came back to the boat without me having to lend a hand. I also let him sit on my lap and man the helm on occasion. He really loves going in circles.

He uses the toilet on his own now but when he was little we helped. He picked it up quickly and we ended up installing an electric toilet, which helped immensely with flushing, which he could not do otherwise. Being a little boy he liked pushing that flush button so we installed a switched breaker outside of the head so we could turn it off when we determined enough time had gone by for a good flush (p.s. make sure the kids have flushed before you get underway, especially if it is a little rocky out. You have been warned...).

He has had friends come on the boat with him and he has a great time with them. When we visit other marinas he is not shy about going out to say hi to the other kids there and spending time on their boats playing. That being said, he has never seemed lonely on the boat. It was one of my worries when we first started that he would be bored and become uninterested. This has not happened. In fact, he loves boating and is the first to jump up to go when I say, 'Does anyone want to go out on the boat?'

We always spend 2-3 weeks in a row on the boat every summer plus just about every weekend. It has made my son better at understanding risk, better at meeting new people, better at being responsible, able to act properly in times of emergency or crisis, and a happier boy overall.

The R-25 is an awesome boat for children. It is very safe and stable. Even in rough seas it is safe. When it gets a little crazy my son just climbs up to the forward berth and watches a DVD, reads, or naps. Sometimes I wonder how he does it. A few years ago we were watching fireworks on the Hudson River for the Fourth of July. When the fireworks ended, hundreds of much faster boats with obviously inexperienced 'captains' came racing down the river creating massive wakes. At one point I was standing with my feet on the side of the passenger seat and my head near the helm seat (at least a 45 degree roll) doing my best to keep us on course and away from everyone else while avoiding capsizing (actually, the boat's stability kept us from capsizing more than me🙂). Two boats sunk that night due to those wakes. My wife was crying. My son was not. When I talked to him about it afterwards he said that he was scared a little but he wasn't worried because he knew it was a good boat and I was a good 'driver'. He was six. Boating makes children better able to handle what life throws at them so don't be afraid to bring them along and let them get their feet wet.
 
Thanks, Doug, for the personal stories. It sounds like you're son will continue your passion and eventually may pass it on to his kids too. You're very convincing, and I can picture the adventures I hope to have one day with my family. I think we've concluded that it's a good time to buy a tug and will see which boat is right for us. Wish us luck!

Having crewed professionally on a tall ship and watching fireworks on the Hudson, I know exactly what you mean about crazy wakes. We were docked at Liberty State Park in NJ and had to close the ship to public tours due to the excessive (3' +) wakes. Rolling nearly 45 degrees is serious, and I'm impressed your tug handled it so well with only 2.5' draft. My ship was a center-board schooner of 120' and 4' draft, but it still rolled like crazy. I've yet to be on the water aboard a tug, but hope to soon either on my own or on a test drive. I'm interested in hearing more about stability, as I have a tendency to enjoy bad weather, and will likely want to test the tug's capacity to handle wind and waves. What has been your experience with wind given the relatively square profile and high freeboard of the tug? Also, does she track well, or slip to leeward?

Thanks again to everyone for your stories and advice! Now I need to buy some books and a R/C USCG motor lifeboat. How cool was that!
Doug
 
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