boom winch for dinghy roof mounting on R27

[Peter Lawson]

Hello, I would appreciate news or suggestions of roof mounting a dinghy on my 2023 R27LE.
Possible dinghy choice is a 385 pound Highfield Classic 310 FCT.
Peter Lawson boat is Grandview.

 

[Bruce Moore]

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[Rebel112r]

My opinion is the dinghy is too heavy to be up there. Any boom that would lift it over the side to get it on top, would cause quite a list, and then you would be pulling the dinghy uphill. Good luck if you try it.

 

[Submariner]

I wouldn't put a 385 lbs dinghy on the roof.

Here's an idea for a lightweight inflatable.
Note, it's easier to get it off at anchor.
It's best put up there when next to a dock.
https://www.letsgochannelsurfing.co...c9c0_0ffd868bae9c411b9281a081ad82c322mv2.jpeg

https://www.letsgochannelsurfing.co...c9c0_06b2a392ab8942b08f677eddfd335490mv2.jpeg

https://www.letsgochannelsurfing.co...c9c0_b5cd12e1258f483d96fd08f10a3a5f00mv2.jpeg

For Channel Surfing, this is our dinghy solution. It's an inflatable that weighs 60 lbs. The Yamaha f2.5 weighs an additional 35lbs.
https://www.letsgochannelsurfing.com/dinghy

 

[sfladgard]

Martin's comment x2. That's too much weight too high for this boat IMHO.

We use a 10' lightweight (60lbs +/-) and just haul it up into the cockpit when we run at speed. At lower speeds (<12 knots) we have also towed it.

https://truekit.net/en-us/products/true-kit-navigator

 

[ALICE J]

On Alice J, I carried a Highfield 310 double aluminum bottom dinghy on my roof crossing the Gulf Stream and other long journeys for three years with no issues. I used a St Croix davit with an electric winch (Harbor Freight ATV 12V). The davit poll was mounted on the Port side aft cabin. I believe I used three extensions to get the proper height to clear the stainless steel tubing frame that I custom built that allowed the dinghy to sit above the solar panels. The extra height of the davit extension needed two guy wires, aft to the stern cleat and another athwartship to the starboard side. I flipped the dinghy in the water so as I lifted it upside down it to place it on the cabin top upside down so no rain water accumulated. I made a bridle to secure to the welded bow towing cleats and to the aft tie points. Yes the Alice J listed when hauling the dinghy, scary at first, but got used to it when I figured out the meta centric height calculations. Plenty of reserve buoyancy, but prudence indicates avoidance of steep broad side waves. :shock: 😱

 

[Peter Lawson]

To Alice J
From: Grandview
Peter Lawson email Peterlawson92@gmail.com
Thanks for your helpful reply. Can you send me pictures of your dinghy mounted please.
Also What power is make and power of dinghy motor and where you store it when not on the dinghy?

 

[RMarkSampson]

I asked the same question on the RT website for my RT31S - their response was

I would highly recommend using the lift system on the swim step. I cannot recommend you putting your dinghy on the roof and will not give any insight into mounting it on the roof.

So, there will not be any roof mounted dingy factory solution forthcoming for the RT31S.

I'll likely stick to the swim step as they suggest, but I'm also inclined to notice that the RT31CB dry weight cited in their specs is 500 lbs. more than the RT31S -- where is that extra weight? Yep, on the roof. So, I'm also inclined to believe placing a dingy that weighs less than 500 lbs. on the roof is not impossible, or dangerous - it is simply not recommended by the RT factory. You still have the choice to come up with your own solution. The factory did come up with a nice rooftop dingy solution for the RT43.

I still want to figure out a winch solution for at least lifting a kayak or paddleboard and a couple of foldable bikes. Humping those toys up there and then flinging them over the side is not optimal in my opinion. Right now, these toys stay at the dock unless I absolutely know I will be using them. That is something I can do on a local trip - but not for cruising.

 

[Peter Lawson]

Thanks for your input on the roof mount question. The R27 has a 300 hp outboard motor which makes swim platform mounting of the dinghy boom/davit lift difficult and I don't feel comfortable using the factory solution of dinghy lift option blocking my rear view. I will explore the idea of mounting a boom lift support pole on the starboard side outside the roof canopy where it won't interfere withe the opening window to the cockpit. The 1000es boom winch by Steelhead Marine looks very impressive with good reviews. Peter

 

[Kenaithab]

Have you considered getting the Ranger swimstep dinghy lift and mounting a rear facing camera mounted on the roof rack? This would allow you to see over the dinghy. There are cameras that interface with Garmin chartplotter or iPhones, iPads which can be mounted near the helm.

 

[Peter Lawson]

I did consider the camera feature for rear view scanning but I would have to be wherever the monitor was so I could observe but wanted to see aft clearly from whatever my position was on the boat, Also I was interested in the Highfield 310 FTC model with a console. The dinghy I prefer is 10' 2" in length plus motor for a total of 11' 8" in the raised position. The Ranger 27 is trailerable without permits at 8' 6" wide and the dinghy can't extend wider than the boat nor could it be inverted upside down as in the case of the factory offered mount. Hence the need for a roof top, upright position for the dinghy. Thanks for the thought.