cockpit drainage on R21 EC

[lloyds]

Just curious how the rainwater and splash is taken out of the cockpit? Is it self bailing or go to a sump under the deck and is pumped??? And does it matter if someone is in the cabin?

 

[Pilotnavigator]

Unfortunately the cockpit is below the water line. All water that enters the cockpit goes into the bilge and pumped over board. It is the ONLY compromise that i accepted when I bought my 21ec. Ranger makes remarkable boats, but everyone is a compromise in some way. If only Ranger could make a 3000 pound boat that I could tow with my SUV that is 8.5 feet wide and 30 feet long with a full galley, head, and king bed with standing 6.5 feet of head room throughout. Also 100 gallon, water and holding tanks, unlimited battery capacity and an engine room were I can walk around the twin diesels. Oh, and it should be able to go under every bridge. Until then, my little 21is the perfect boat for my purpose. I do have a full cockpit enclosure in place when in the water. This makes the low floor a none issue for me and mitigates the issue. What is good is the engine is low too, but is the easiest accessed engine on any boat I have seen or owned.

 

[lloyds]

Thanks for the information. When looking at one several years ago I forgot to check that out. I assume there is an inspection hatch to check and clean the pump. It must sit right behind the door? That is super nice engine access. As I get older that is turning into a really big deal. On my sailboat you have to actually work upside down to check the transmission.

 

[Capt’nKarl]

Good day Captains !

The 21EC has excellent drainage of the cockpit thanks to drains, 1 on port and 1 on starboard, built into the floor behind the engine compartment. The cockpit floor is designed in such a way as to help drain water into the bilge. In our experience in Florida we RARLEY have any water coming over the sides even in bad weather. We also have a full bimini top and cockpit carpet covering the entire floor with openings for the drains of course. The carpet doesn't even get damp while underway unless we're in a downpour. When water does get in it drains into the bilge where the bilge pump is located. The water is then pumped overboard on the starboard side. The whole process is automatic as long as there is sufficient battery voltage. There is no need to leave the cabin or cockpit. I have a back up bilge pump "just in case". We also have full surround enclosures and can use either bug screen or clear vinyl to almost totally enclose the cockpit. This keeps 99% of any water out of the cockpit and allows us to go out anytime of year.

Cheers!!
Karl

 

[SGIDAVE]

Good day Captains !

The 21EC has excellent drainage of the cockpit thanks to scuppers, 1 on port and 1 on starboard, built into the floor behind the engine compartment. The cockpit floor is designed in such a way as to help drain water towards the scuppers. In our experience in Florida we RARLEY have any water coming over the sides even in bad weather. We also have a full bimini top and cockpit carpet covering the entire floor with openings for the scuppers of course. The carpet doesn't even get damp while underway unless we're in a downpour. When water does get in it drains into the scuppers and into the bilge where the bilge pump is located. The water is then pumped overboard on the starboard side. The whole process is automatic as long as there is sufficient battery voltage. There is no need to leave the cabin or cockpit. I have a back up bilge pump "just in case". We also have full surround enclosures and can use either bug screen or clear vinyl to almost totally enclose the cockpit. This keeps 99% of any water out of the cockpit and allows us to go out anytime of year.

Cheers!!
Karl

I'm sorry to be a stickler for terms...

To avoid confusion, a SCUPPER is an OVERBOARD drain in the side or bulwarks of a boat. That is, it conveys deck or cockpit water DIRECTLY overboard. The 21EC does NOT have scuppers but rather simple drains which direct the water to the bilge where it is ultimately pumped overboard by the bilge pump system. There is a 'high water' alarm in the bilge as well.

This is a perfectly adequate system as long as the operator understands how it works. Thus, it is prudent to verify that the bilge pump is operational before leaving the dock. For instance the C-dory line incorporates a similar design into it's 16 and 22 ft models plus the Venture 23 and 26 as well; water that finds it's way into the cockpit is removed via a bilge pump system. The CD25 and Tomcat have an above-water-line deck and use scuppers to self drain that area; but they still have a "bilge" with an attendant bilge pump system.

Re: cockpit drainage on R21 EC

Post by lloyds on 05 Jan 2016, 12:35
Thanks for the information. When looking at one several years ago I forgot to check that out. I assume there is an inspection hatch to check and clean the pump. It must sit right behind the door?

The bilge access is directly aft of the engine box. There is bilge access aft of the pilot house door which is mostly for opening/closing the engine raw water cooling valve. Some have installed a second bilge pump in this location too.

I strongly endorse the 21EC!

dave

 

[Capt’nKarl]

I just want to thank Dave for catching the wrong use of the word scupper. I intentionally used this word in place of drain to see just how many true naval editorial experts would catch it. The word has been changed to DRAIN.
Good spot Dave!

Cheers!

 

[Stevan47]

Thanks also to Cap'n Karl for his naval knowledge! As a long serving Navy guy (RAN), it is great to see the true terms being used. I often get chided aboout my use of naval terms when bringing passengers/family aboard for a cruise. Terms such as gunwales, lee, guardrails, stbd and port, berthing lines, fenders, etc. Guess you can't take the sailor out of the boy! Regards to all. Stevan