Dinghy on RT with outboard - How??

Barry, I completely understand the R23 outboard selling better than the R23 sterndrive. I consider the R23 to be more of a day or fishing boat while the R27 is more of a extended cruising boat. Very different missions and probably a very different customer base.
Doesn't even look like the sterndrive R23 is even being offered anymore. No pricing for the sterndrive option on the RT website. But they will sell you a gas generator for $14,999 for your R23. Not sure what that's about!
 
I suspect the specifications for the R-23 and more so with the 2018 R-27 are in a state of flux.

I believe originally the sterndrive for the R-23 option cost +$10,000. Maybe this put people off from a cost standpoint. The same case may be for having a sterndrive on the 2018 R-27, thus pushing its price over the $200K mark.
 
Barry, I suspect your right about the RT website! But I'd much rather have a sterndrive diesel on the new R27 for $10,000 extra than to pay $14,999 for a gas generator!
In any event, the reason we bought our R25 and sold the Monterey 242 was not for the extra 7" of hull length. We wanted radar, a full galley, fully enclosed cabin, a head where you could close the door while in use, and the ability to stow the dinghy on the transom. All while still being trailerable without permits. None of those were possible on the Monterey except trailering. Just hate to see a new extended cruising boat come out from RT that goes backwards on one of the key features that drew us to the RTs in the first place!
Our average trip on our R25 this summer will be 16 days covering 250+ nautical miles with 25% of the nights on the hook or a mooring buoy. When that gets up to 3 weeks plus and 400+ nautical miles per trip in a few years we will probably be looking for a R27.
 
I think that a sterndrive was offered on the R23 as there just isn't room, with the current layout of the boat, to place an inboard on the R23. I would expect the new R27, however, to have the same inboard diesel option that the current R27 has. Personally, I wouldn't want a sterndrive (gas or diesel) on a R27.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I wouldn't want a gas generator either (I think the 15k option is for both generator and a/c).

Jim
 
scross":1kyvoeb3 said:
Barry, I suspect your right about the RT website! But I'd much rather have a sterndrive diesel on the new R27 for $10,000 extra than to pay $14,999 for a gas generator!
In any event, the reason we bought our R25 and sold the Monterey 242 was not for the extra 7" of hull length. We wanted radar, a full galley, fully enclosed cabin, a head where you could close the door while in use, and the ability to stow the dinghy on the transom. All while still being trailerable without permits. None of those were possible on the Monterey except trailering. Just hate to see a new extended cruising boat come out from RT that goes backwards on one of the key features that drew us to the RTs in the first place!
Our average trip on our R25 this summer will be 16 days covering 250+ nautical miles with 25% of the nights on the hook or a mooring buoy. When that gets up to 3 weeks plus and 400+ nautical miles per trip in a few years we will probably be looking for a R27.
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Some of the virtues for having the outboard are...

1) Less noise in cockpit and especially in the cabin. With cabin door closed it's almost silent inside the cabin.
2) One can select the speed; slow or fast (WOT is 36 mph with a calm sea).
3) Fuel burn is very much like for diesel as best I know and have been told.
4) Much easier maintenance and Yamaha engine technicians abound compared to for Volvo.
5) Less need for stern thruster.
6) Engine & prop can be raised out of the water.
7) No need for a traditional rudder mechanism.
8) Regardless of what Volvo claims, diesel is more polluting than is gasoline.
9) Diesel fumes can be obnoxious to some people.

Yes, there are negatives compared to internal diesel engines, but leave that for others to chime in with those. 🙂
 
This is the DreadKnot, R27 classic. Considering trading him in for a 27 outboard with the same questions and some new ones. How to mount the dinghy. a simple solution yet? We have a Portland Pudgy on the stern now and it is awesome. Biggest decision for the outboard from the inboard is the ability to moor in front of the house in 18" of water on sandy bottom with the engine up, instead of blowing out the intake each time before starting. Too much risk to the diesel. With that said, the clean bottom and slightly less draft makes the 2018 ideal for our situation, we think. We do wonder about the water heater? Specs are confusing. It appears to have the 5 gallon diesel for the cabin, but we were told the water heater was electric. If that is the case, then hot water is only available while connected to shore power?
 
My 27OB is due to be delivered first of May, my plan is to get something like a Zodiac and store it upside down over the engine. With the floor of the dinghy an inch or so above the engine. This should keep it handy and low enough to see over. I am still sorting out how I would actually mount the dinghy, I need the boat here before I can do that, and I need to brush up on my TIG welding skills.
I can't help you with the water heater question as I don't know the wattage of the heater. If it is less than 2000 watts, then the inverter can handle it for a little while, but the Yamaha alternator can't keep up with that load. I am thinking of picking up a 2K inverter generator for times I am going to be on the hook for extended times. I couldn't justify the $15K for RT's generator.
 
Please add the cost of a few Carbon Monoxide alarms to the generator. I used my Honda 2000 when my Diesel was out for rebuild - and my 3 alarms tripped twice due to fluke winds when I used the generator at a dock.
 
The link below is to a photo that shows how to have a full swim platform with dual outboards. The Sea Ray is nothing like what I want and this design has been discontinued as a market failure, but beyond this one design is the concept of outboards in covered wells with a hull extension/platform that extends well past the outboards.

I think that idea has a lot of potential and would like to see it incorporated into a boat that I actually like. This boat is a Sea Ray Venture 370

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/ ... 3990845000

Any thoughts?
 
So the two outboard motors are inside those two stern located boxes, right ?
 
Yep. That makes them quieter when running and the tops hinge open so you can stand on the platform and be able to reach the motors. The position keeps the props away from swimmers, and all in all looks like a viable solution to some of the issues inherent in hanging outboards off the transom.
 
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