Fishing, crabbing and all that stuff

norbhat

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We're on schedule to do the Inside Passage this summer. Now I know that the manly thing to do is fish, crab, schrimp, shoot bear, and all that stuff. :evil: I don't like dealing with messy things and I don't like messing up my boat. 🙁 But I do like a fresh halibut or salmon steak. What do I need and how do I accomplish the above? 😉 I'm serious. Norb
 
I'd put the biggest cooler you can fit out on the swim platform, and never bring a fish into the cockpit.
 
Here's a writeup I did for another purpose. Doesn't get into a lot of detail on salmon fishing, but it might help you get started figuring out what you want to do.

Fishing Gear

Many cruisers enjoy fishing, and in the PNW it’s fairly easy to supply the galley with fresh, healthful and delicious seafood. If you’ve never eaten fish caught only hours ago and handled properly, you probably don’t appreciate how good seafood can be.

There are salmon, of course – the quintessential PNW fish. Five species of salmon swim in these waters, but only three you’re likely to catch with rod and reel: Chinook (also known as King), Coho (Silver), and Pink (Humpy). Chinook and Coho are fine eating, more desirable than Pinks. Sockeye (Red) are caught primarily in commercial nets, but if you’re lucky enough to meet a fisherman with one to spare, accept it gratefully – Sockeye are as tasty as they come. Chum (Dog) salmon rank lowest in desirability.

Another favorite is halibut. These ugly but delicious flatfish range well upward of 200 pounds, but you may not want to keep one larger than 40-50lb (20-25lb of fillets) unless your freezer is unusually large. Since halibut above about 75lb are spawning females, you help sustain the fish population if you don’t keep these really big ones. We make it a practice not to keep small ones either, giving those under 12-15lb a chance to grow up. If you're wondering how to figure the weight of a big halibut, just measure its length. Consult the halibut size table found in most tide booklets, and you’ll have a really accurate weight.

Another great PNW delicacy is the Dungeness crab, fairly easily caught in many places up and down the coast. Spot prawns (and smaller shrimp) can be found in many places as well. With most of these critters, the further north, or the further away from civilization, the bigger and more plentiful they tend to be.

On our 26-footer, we take the gear to fish for all of these (except Sockeye). Here’s what we use:

Whether we’re trolling with downriggers for salmon, or jigging for halibut, we like the 9-foot graphite “salmon” rods built for 10-20lb or 15-25lb line. Some fishermen use shorter heavyweight rods and big reels for halibut, but we think they’re much stiffer than necessary, and too tiring for jigging. They’re an OK way to go if you fish by anchoring, hooking up a big bait, and letting it sit on the bottom, but we prefer jigging. We’ve caught halibut up to 250lb, jigging with our salmon rods. We carry one for each person on board, plus a spare or two.

We use conventional reels, of a size that can hold 240-300 yards of 14lb monofilament line. Trolling for salmon, we use 17 to 24lb mono. It’s stretchy, and less likely than braid to pull the hook out of a fairly delicate salmon mouth.

For halibut we use similar reels, but we spool them with 40 or 50lb braided line. Braid is tougher than mono, and much thinner. Being so thin, the line drags less as it moves through the water, so the current pulls your line out away from the boat less than it would with mono. This makes halibut jigging (in deep water, 100 to 200 feet or more) much easier. Braid also has very little stretch, so you can feel your jig thumping on the bottom, or a fish striking it, even 200 feet down.

For halibut baits, we’re partial to big (8, 12, or 16 oz.) lead-head jigs, with 10” curly-tail grubs. All-metal jigs work well too, but they tend to get expensive, since the bottom often manages to snag a jig or two. Jigs are most effective when tipped with a piece of octopus (or squid if no octopus is available), which can be found at some PNW fishing suppliers, or in some grocery store freezer sections. We drop our jigs to the bottom, then repeatedly lift up several feet and let them flutter back down, thumping the bottom again after each lift.

If you’re lucky enough to bring in a big halibut, be careful. A 40-50 pounder can thrash around in the cockpit with destructive force. You’ll want to subdue it with a good weighted fish bonker before bringing it over the side. You’ll need a gaff as well, because halibut larger than about 15 lb can’t be brought aboard in a salmon net. We use an inexpensive “wireman’s gaff”, which is a big shark hook connected to a poly line that can be cleated onto the boat. It works quite well, and takes much less space than a gaff or harpoon with a big handle.

Whether halibut or salmon, bleed it out (by cutting under its gills) as soon as possible after you bring it in, then gut or fillet it, rinse with clean seawater, and get it iced down while it’s still cold. This is key to keeping fish in prime eating condition. We put fillets in zip bags, suck out the air, and stash them in fridge or freezer. A good sharp fillet knife (we like a 10" semi-flexible blade) is essential. Sharpen it at least every time you’re about to begin a filleting job.

For crab, there are two ways to go: pots (traps), or rings. If you’re in a location where you have good reason to believe the Dungies are around, crab rings are a fast way to scoop up a few. Bait them (fresh salmon heads are hard to beat), drop to the bottom in 20-40 feet of water, and come back after 25-30 minutes. Pull quickly, and the ring, which lies flat when on the bottom, becomes a basket which the crabs can’t easily escape. Rings really work - on one lucky pull, one of our rings brought up fifty Dungies, nine of them keepers (males only, at least a certain size). A plastic crab gauge, designed to handle the various sizes required in different areas, makes measuring quick and easy.

If you have the time to soak them (usually at least a few hours), crab pots are the thing. Drop them in 20-40 feet, or occasionally deeper. Pay close attention to where you are on the tide, and where the tide will be when you come back for your pots. Various folding crab pots are available, but the solid round ones are less trouble and work really well, if you have space enough to store them. We like the stainless Ladner pots.

Shrimping is something like crabbing, using pots with smaller mesh and entry doorways. The pots go way deep (150-300 feet or more), so they’re at risk of floating away with tide and current. They’re much safer if weighted with at least a few pounds of lead. The pot line that works best for us is a tightly wound ¼” three-strand poly. It’s not really sinking line, but it doesn’t tend to float or tangle nearly as much as the cheaper braided poly line. We splice big loops on both ends of each line, so they’re quick and easy to connect to either pot or float. 300 or 350 feet of line stores nicely on one inexpensive orange plastic power cord reel.

Bait shrimp pots with fresh salmon heads if you have them, or with commercially made bait pellets. As the pot is on its way to the bottom, clip on a line weight, which keeps extra line from floating on the surface and getting caught by a prop. We always use a good bit of extra line, to allow for the tide, and for the fact that in current the line will not run straight up and down. We loop the top end of the line onto a big orange ball fender, mark the location with a GPS waypoint, and let the pot soak overnight.

The next morning we pull pots by warping the line (three times) around the drum side of our windlass, and winding the line onto its reel as the windlass brings it up (first we loosen the gypsy so it doesn’t turn with the drum). Believe it or not, this whole operation can be done by one person. It sure beats pulling 300 feet of line and pounds of shrimp pot by hand. Folks who do a lot of crabbing or shrimping sometimes have dedicated pot-puller machines.

As you might imagine, all this equipment takes a lot of space, and weighs a good bit too – especially downriggers and their weights, and crab and shrimp gear. You’ll have to work out just how much you want to haul. Our C-Dory 22 carried rods and reels, downriggers, and crab rings, but no shrimp or crab pots.

If you want to go with minimal fishing gear, it’s possible to troll for salmon without downriggers, using weights or divers to force the line down behind the boat. Another salmon technique without downriggers is called “mooching”. It’s like jigging on the bottom, except that it is done up higher in the water column, using live herring for bait. You could also try jigging with artificial baits like crippled herring or buzz bombs, up higher in the water column like mooching. You could get along with only rods, reels, and appropriate weights and baits - jigging for halibut and catching some salmon if you’re lucky. If you like crab, I’d definitely suggest taking at least a couple of crab rings.
 
Richard, that's spectacular information! Now all I need is for you to clean 'em and fry 'em. Thanks. Norb
 
When we first looked at the R-21EC, my wife asked What are these?, indicating the recessed rod holders. As soon as I explained their function, she gave me THAT look, and a warning about dragging dying fish onto her boat. All of this came back to me as I just read the preceeding informative description of the many and various ways to put dinner on the table in the PNW. HOWEVER - this also made me recall Tom Ray's remarks in the discussion, Oil Change!!! Namely;
Bang! - Lights Out!
But, seriously, that was a very well written and beneficial explanation of PNW fishing, crabbing & stuff. I only wish we were able to be there with everyone to enjoy that beautiful place.
Alex & Sherry,"Kamalani"
 
Alex,
You and your wife should try to make it to the Ranger Tug Rendezvous in September. There are currently two boats coming from Northern Cal and we are bringing Solitude from Henderson Nevada. The two weeks after the rendezvous, we are headed to the San Juans with stops in between.

The dates are September 11th through the 13th at the Bremerton City Marina.
 
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