Full cockpit enclosure for 2018 R-27/OB

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Subject: Full cockpit enclosure for 2018 R-27/OB

I'm currently having a full cockpit enclosure manufactured by my local King Marine Canvas in Seattle. This last Monday the King Marine workers came to my boat (was in a covered slip as they needed things to be dry) at my Marina in Edmonds and made up the templates for the canvas, panels, zip locations according to my needs.

They had to remove my stock Bimini top as its zips have to be modified/changed for zipping in the new side panels.

I had them ensure the transom panel was large enough (wide enough) to not obscure my visibility of the Yamaha outboard from my helm position.

When King has it all created and come back to install it I'll take some photos.

Let me know if you would like to have access to the photos or even if you have any question on this subject PM me or post back here. 🙂
 
The enclosure will be delivered and installed later this week..... will have camera at the ready..... 🙂
 
I’m currently waiting for a quote on a full enclosure for my new 21. Aside from the transom panels were there any design considerations or options?
 
cstpt":3unpyzpp said:
I’m currently waiting for a quote on a full enclosure for my new 21. Aside from the transom panels were there any design considerations or options?

If you're referring to King Marine Canvas, what I can say is that the enclosure is 'custom', so yes any panel size and locations for panels can be discussed. When mine was templated I had full control over width of panels, number of panels special considerations for where there might be rub spots so that canvas can be stitched into the panel where there would otherwise be clear plastic that could wear and split, and so on.
 
It is not King that I am dealing with. Just trying to think of anything worth discussing or considering while we are in the design phase.
 
Update.... the enclosure will be installed next Monday and not later this week due to Seattle Boat show requiring more attention from King Marine employees. :lol:
 
baz":2h0ozdis said:
Update.... the enclosure will be installed next Monday and not later this week due to Seattle Boat show requiring more attention from King Marine employees.
Disappointing to hear but thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing pictures of your enclosure.
 
Today my King Marine cockpit enclosure was installed. I'm very pleased with it.

For time being I provide a Photo Album (un edited at this time) for the installation and will add comments I think should be interesting for others later.

Here's the Photo Album for viewing. (will post later)
 
Barry,

How did they make accommodations for using the entry steps over the side rather than the transom entry? I am assuming that you can easily get out on either side in order to facilitate docking but am wondering how that is done?

Would love to see photos.

Jim
 
Well, it took awhile to get the photos and a few of the videos uploaded, so sorry for any delay for folks wanting to view the photo shoot. However, here it is, and at this time it's still doing some final uploads. This Photo Album is as of this time unedited, but will add some comments in a bit or maybe a fe bits.... stay tuned. 😀

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1A5CmvASjGwkf

Note.... the wind-tunnel noise you can hear in the first video's audio is my Webasto heater running at full blast. The heater needs to be run every 30 days to keep the combustion chamber in good condition. When I started it today, a puff of blueish smoke was being blown out the Webasto's heater exhaust hull port and at first concerned me.... but a few seconds later the exhaust was clear without any sign of blue smoke. You can tell it needs to be run as both side lights on the controller flash red every few seconds and the display tell you the run the heater as a maintenance item. The default run time is 20 mins.

1) The installation took the single workman around 4 hrs to complete it. A large part of the time was making all the small black 12" long loop bungees for securing the bottom of the panels to gunwales.

2) The stock Bimini top had to be removed and taken to the King Marine's factory to alter the edge zips to accommodate the 7 panels.

3) The 7 panels are; two on each side and three on the transom. The transom panels are one for the doorway, one large wide one for the center and the 3rd one is for the port side corner. The two large wide panels on port and starboard sides adjacent to the cabin can be rolled up as can the rear doorway panel and the large wide center panel at the transom. So a total of 4 of the 7 panels can be rolled up. The plastic is 40 gauge and very sturdy/strong.

4) Entry to the cockpit can be achieved via the transom starboard side door panel, and both the port and starboard side panels that connect to the cabin thus entry to the cockpit has three options.

5) To retrieve the fenders hanging off the cockpit sides one will need to loosen the two rear most panels on port or starboard side from their loop bungees and zipped them up a bit. I tried this and it's quite easy.

6) It pays to have the zip latches at the bottom of the panel sides above the looped bungees up a tad so that they can be pulled up when inside the cockpit. This technique is just a matter of practice IMO.

7) The panels are very nicely taught and there's very little flapping.

8) With all the panels deployed the inside of the cockpit feels well secured from wind and weather and the strong canvas and 40 gauge plastic windows will resist most pets from leaping or wanting to, leap overboard -- a big plus for our very excitable and energetic Wire Hair Fox Terrier, and of course secures small grandchildren as well.

9) The R-27/OB has two chrome stanchions holding the top Bimini and they angle out some from the Bimini. I was concerned that these angled poles would wear on the plastic so had King Marine stitch in canvas at these points to avoid this issue. They made a good job of doing this.

10) All of the panels edges that secure to the gunwales and the cabin side wall are very nicely sealed and suspect in heavy seas and heavy rain will avoid water from finding its way into the cockpit.

11) My overall impression of this King Marine Canvas cockpit enclosure for the R-27/OB is an outstanding product and would recommend it to any R-27/OB owner without hesitation.

12) The installer who did the work today is a King Marine employee with 31 years of experience, which is when Dave (the boss) bought the business some 30 years ago. The installer fella's wife also works for King and she was the person that did all the stitching for the enclosure.

13) Several weeks ago the King Marine fella came to my boat to do the canvas templating, so now King Marine has the templates for the enclosure to lessen the effort for other R-27/OB owners who wish for King to install a cockpit enclosure like mine.

14) Note, I decided to keep the RT stock Bimini and for King to use it for the enclosure. It's possible for the stock Bimini to be discarded and for King to install different chrome stanchions to have a Bimini that extends all the way back to the transom. If this is done it will add cost obviously, but will mean the sloping panels at the transom would be more vertical, if that is a desirable thing for some people.

15) It's a great looking enclosure IMO and I'm extremely pleased with it.
 
Well now... That should keep the bilges dry ;-) Looks great!
 
jagizzi":wkxlo3xp said:
Well now... That should keep the bilges dry ;-) Looks great!

Yea... that's for sure.

When at my boat today I wondered down the finger to some uncovered sailboats and noticed a lot of water noise. I eventually found where it was commit from. It was a water hose hanging off the side of a sailboat and gushing water out. The sailor appeared into the cockpit and I asked if it was fresh or salt water. He looked kind of angry and shouted out with "It's salt water".. I replied... "Where from ?" ...and he said "I have a foot of salt water in the bilge".... "Oucheeee I said".... and he said.... "Got to find where I've got a thru-hull leak".... poor guy.... he looked very sad.

P.S. If we tag along with you to and back from Alaska in 2019 the enclosure will be a very welcomed addition for our R-27/OB. :lol:

I've had to engage 5 to 6 foot wakes from commercial boats and those can cause the boat to nose dive after the first wave and that places the boat for the most part under water and that can fill the cockpit in a hurry. The enclosure will protect us from that sort of event.
 
Barry, Thanks for the pics, can't wait to see what mine looks like. What is up with apparent discoloration of the stainless steel top braces?
 
Jim: Glad you like the enclosure and I'm sure yours will be as good. The discoloration you mention presumably was because the Bimini had to be removed for King to re-jigg the zips to align with the panels. The Bimini was off for some two weeks which exposed the chromed bracing and suspect moisture was the cause as normally they are covered up with the Bimini. I'm sure it will easily rub off and will address that next time I go down to the boat.... thanks for pointing this out.
 
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