Garmin Mini GPS tracker vs Garmin Explorer

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I’m doing some research for a planned trip to Alaska and wanted to ask my fellow Tugnutters for advice. I’ve read that cell reception can be rather limited or non existent in parts of Alaska so I’ve been looking into portable gps tracking/messaging devices for safety reasons. Who has experience with the Garmin Mini, Garmin Explorer and or the Spot devices or other? Please tell me your thoughts on having on onboard while cruising in the remote areas of Alaska or Northern BC, where I’ve read one can even be out of VHF reception.

Thanks for your input.

Jim F
 
Hi Jim,

We have a Garmin InReach Explorer and used it all the time on our trip to Alaska. You are correct that cell reception is non-existent much of the time and the VHF reception can be sketchy. I would not go on that trip without at least one of the satellite services you mention. The InReach works great for texting friends and family and allows them to track you 24/7 on their website. The only thing I wasn’t totally happy with is the weather feature. You can get a basic weather forecast anywhere but the marine forecasts are only available for locations at least 3 miles off the coast. While the basic forecast is better than nothing it is a poor predictor of conditions on the water. There are only two days during an inside passage trip each direction that you will be able to effectively use the marine forecast (Cape Caution and Dixon Entrance). Fortunately, these are the only two critical passages where you absolutely need a marine forecast. The basic will get you by for the other areas but a full satellite connection would be even better.

Fortunately for us our boating partners had a satellite phone service on their boat that included a weather service similar to Windy.com. We checked that forecast nearly every day.

In short, I highly recommend the Garmin InReach. I have’s used the mini but I think the primary difference is display capability. Since you will likely use the App on your phone as your display I think the Mini will work just as well as the Explorer. I don’t know much about the Spot.

Curt
 
Timely question - we are considering a trip to Sitka ourselves. Had a nice visit with the commander of the Sitka Coast Guard station this afternoon on our farm. He was home visiting family for the holiday. This subject came up. His immediate response was to get an EPURB. It is the quickest way for them to pin point your location by helicopter in an emergency. Especially in low visibility like poor weather or night. You can even wear it when away from the boat. Be sure to register it. He also likes AIS but it takes longer for them to get the signal and it isn't quite as precise for locating . He favored the INREACH for communicating back home over SPOT. For his boating he has all 3. The only one that does you any good if you hit the water is the EPURB.
 
Good discussion!
I see three aspects of communication that need to be addressed on trips like this:
1. Emergency and/or distress declaration
2. Planning with weather and sea condition forecasts
3. General communication

Here’s my strategies:
1. Having used satellite emergency location devices in my airplane (ELT) since the mid-1980’s, I would never venture off the beaten path without a EPIRB within arms reach. Our floating ACR Aquafix is on the boat in an easy to reach location, taken when mountain biking in my backpack Andover my belt for hikes in the forests. If I were King of the World I would make EPIRBs mandatory on all boats used in salt water. I can’t see reason not to have one. If I’m in trouble I want rescue, not search!
2. Where VHF communications and cellular communications are expected to be spotty I would rent or buy a satellite phone with all the phone numbers to weather and seas forecasting on speed dial. We were very surprised to have cell coverage in part of Desolation Sound last summer but if we go to the Broughtons next summer it will be with a rented satellite phone.
3. Have VHF radio, cellular devices and, if going out of range of both of those, a satellite phone and use the one that’s cheapest to make the communication desired.
PS: Since I already have triple redundant GPS navigation capability and a EPIRB on board I don’t see the need for the Garmin inReach Explorer+ device. My current gap in communications is with having a satellite phone. At $8 per day rental plus $60/month for a calling plan that’s the way I will go to close that gap.
 
Up until recently, I was strongly recommending PLBs (in my line of work, we sometimes go chasing after them). With the advent of the garmin inreach mini and spending a summer motorcycling, camping and hiking with it, I can honestly say I won't be using the plb anymore.

The inreach had satellite coverage everywhere I needed it, even under the canopy of 200' pine trees. Beyond the obvious distress button, you have the option of passing what the problem is and what assistance you require. This in a small form factor and with good battery life makes it an ideal choice. Granted, in a real life or death emergency the plb signal is stronger and goes directly to the Rescue Coordination Center, they won't know what you need until they get to you.

You can't use the plb to get weather, send your tracks, email family. It's a more versatile device. 99.999% of plbs will never be used, you will use your inreach.

Spot devices tend to have more expensive subscriptions and their satellite coverage isn't quite as good as that of the inreach devices.

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I’ll add my 2 cents and another vote for Garmin inReach (we have the Explorer+). On our almost four month trip to Alaska last summer, we carried the inReach, an EPIRB, a Sirius antenna and weather subscription, a cellular signal booster, and an iPad with Navionics and the Windy app, in addition to our stock VHF, a handheld VHF, and two smartphones. We also had a redundant chartplotter since our boat has one on the flybridge.

With all of that equipment onboard, the inReach filled a niche that nothing else could fill. I suppose a satellite phone could have accomplished most of what the inReach did, plus the nice added benefit of voice communication but unless my math is off, the sat phone option is about an order of magnitude greater in cost than the inReach. I paid $35/month for the satellite subscription for inReach, on a month-to-month basis. If you want to opt for a year contract, the cost is $25/month. I used the inReach frequently and, at least for our cruising lifestyle, never felt the need for a sat phone.

The inReach does not replace an EPIRB in my opinion, though it has a waterproof rating of ipx7, meaning it can handle submersion up to 1 meter for 30 minutes. So not good if you hit the water but ok for abandoning ship in a dinghy in the rain. I chose the Explorer+ over the Mini because all functions could be performed on its screen without resorting to a smartphone (another layer of redundancy) and because it has twice the battery life of the Mini.

We mounted the inReach in its quick-release holder on the wall at the entrance to the “cave,” left it permanently plugged in to recharging power, and linked it to my iPhone. So I then had immediate access to all of its functions by simply pulling out my smartphone. I could send and receive texts (limited to 160 characters each), check on weather, configure tracking, etc., all without leaving my seat. When we went hiking, we snapped the unit out of its holder and took it with us.

Curt is right that “marine weather” forecasts can only be requested for points that are 3 miles or more offshore. But there is an option for “premium” weather (a step up from “basic”) which gives you a 7-day forecast on inland waters for any point that you choose on the map. It starts with 1 hour increments and then the increments get longer the further out into the future you go. It predicts wind speed and direction, sky condition, chance of precipitation, temperature, relative humidity (useful for predicting fog) and barometric pressure. I found the predictions very reliable. It does not predict wave height but you can often infer that from wind speed and direction and the fetch as shown on the chart.

In the event of an emergency, it sends out a distress signal with your coordinates straight to an international team that is equipped to dispatch local help. Unlike a personal locator beacon or EPIRB where you don’t know if anyone is responding to your signal or not, there is two-way communication in real time with your rescuers. They can update you on progress and you can update them on your situation and condition.

This was not part of Jim’s original question but I’ll add that I did not find the Sirius weather subscription helpful at all. Satellite coverage was very sketchy, especially in Alaska. If I managed to get wind vectors to show on the chartplotter at all, the resolution was poor, wave heights were only shown offshore in open ocean, and the written synopsis frequently failed to download.
 
Jim,

Having made the journey from Anacortes to Seward, AK in June 2018 in my R-27C, I would add that I was surprised how much cell coverage there was in the 'Inside Passage' of Alaska. I was told that the coverage is provided for the dozens of cruise ships that ply the waters during the summer. I would not make the trip without an EPIRB onboard to cover the worst case scenario. I rented a sat phone from Surveyors Exchange in Anchorage for a pretty reasonable price. They will send it to you and you can return it by post. Texting on the sat phone is free and you pay for voice time. It proved invaluable as I required a tow from Butedale, BC to Prince Rupert, BC for repairs. Dealing with my insurance company and the tow company could have been done by text, but a number of phone calls were required to explain the need for the 12 hour tow and arrange the logistics of the tow on a Saturday evening. I used Windy as my weather source and i-NavX as a back up navigation system. VHF coverage is very spotty at times due to the mountains.

Enjoy your trip.
Bob Allan
Annie M R-27C
 
This thread got me thinking and I did more research on the Garmin inTouch capable devices. I like the marine Garmin 86i for use in Canadian waters since the Garmin 86sci doesn’t include the Canadian Pacific in the “Coastal Waters” map that’s included with the 86sci.
These Garmin devices give you text message capability but not the ability to make a voice call. I can see situations where making a voice call would be important. Text messaging is much better than no communication capability at all but still not the same as what you get from a true satellite phone.
 
Crewdog":1p3g1gdh said:
My vote is for all available Epirbs, PLBs, Sat Phones and sat GPS email trackers as can be had.

If it hits the fan, neither the USCG JRCC Juneau

or The Canada Coast Guard Marine Emergency reporting

publish an email for emergency contacts.
They don't publish an email, but when you press the sos button, the Inreach or Spot response center will forward your information to the appropriate RCC or police unit. Yes it's somewhat delayed compared to a plb, elt or epirb but the ultimate response to an sos is basically the same. If you can provide additional details to rescuers via the 2 way messenger than that goes a long way.

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Jim,

I agree 100% with the comments from Red Raven. We purchased Garmin InReach Explorer and used it this past summer with great success.

Scott
Stoney Lake Explorer
 
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