Gun for heavy grease

lproulx

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C-24 C SE
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Red Owl
I just installed a set of Bearing Buddys, which require pumping a fair amount of grease into the hub. I bought a tube of "marine water resistant" grease that is quite "thick", about like peanut butter. It will not flow through my hand grease gun - a typical Alamite lever type tool. It's not a matter of it not wanting to go into the hub - the grease gun pump loses its prime. I like the grease. Anyone have this problem or a recommendation on a grease gun that might handle this grease? It ticks me off, because it's in a tube like hand grease guns use. It should work in la hand grease gun. If no suggestions there, anyone have a favorite grease that is not too thick.

Larry
 
Consider priming your grease gun.

Check out YouTube for plenty of techniques. This is our technique:
1. Warm your grease gun/grease
2. Move to a clear area
3. Extend the plunger
4. Hold the T-handle of the plunger
5. Twirl around as fast as you can (exert as much centrifugal force as you can)
6. Insert the plunger
7. Pump the lever
8. Repeat until the air is clear
 
I think any quality grease gun should work well. I have had issues with cheap guns before. The fitting on end of gun could be the problem. Unscrew the female zert fitting on grease gun and see if it pumps freely. Another problem could be the spring loaded plunger not go down into grease tube. Other than that, pump on the gun is bad.
 
I have a few comments to suggest when using this new grease and grease gun and the uses of bearing buddies. You may know all of this but it wasn't stated in your thread posting so I thought I would comment.

The grease that you are now using should be the grease you repacked the bearings with. Using different greases in bearings can cause issues. In an emergency use what ever you have to get you home. When packing bearings and keeping them greased use the same grease. When repacking the bearings use a double lip seal. Hand pack the bearing rollers and put a light coating of greases in the interior of the hub. It does not need to be filled. If it is this gives a better chance of a seal failure because the grease gets hot and expands. This is the purpose of the bearing buddy It has a spring that can compress when the grease gets hot and expands. The problem with this is most people pump grease into the bearing buddy until the spring is completely compressed. Now there is no room for expansion and the seals start to leak. I see so many boat trailers with grease splattered all around the inside of the rim. When the bearings are properly packed and the seals are in good condition all you need to do is add a few pumps just to freshen up the grease inside the wheel. This adds lubricant to the grease that is in the wheel. You don't need to replace it by pumping a bunch of times.

As for the grease gun. The thicker the grease the harder it is to bleed the air out of the gun. When the new cartridge is installed there is air introduced. If there is air the pump will not pump air and the pump handle will do nothing. You must exhaust the air out of the pump for it to work properly. Most grease guns have an air bleed on the top. unscrew it until you see grease coming out of it. The guns spring loaded plunger will push the air out when the bleed screw is loosened . If the gun does not have a bleed then unscrew the pump from the cartridge until just one thread is holding it. Let it lay that way for a while and that should help bleed the air out. If you are still having an issue you may have a plunger or spring that is not pushing the grease in the cartridge stuck or damaged. There are cheap guns and good guns!! The cheap guns hoses and couplings sometimes fail quickly. Buy a good quality gun and it will last forever.
 
As BBmarine noted, this was not a part of the OP question but since BB commented I will also. Not everyone will agree but on any trailer that I've even owned where I've used Original Bearing Buddies I have always completely filled the hubs with grease. The intent is to fill all cavities with grease so water can't get in. This means getting all the air out of the hub and replacing it with grease. Bearing buddies are designed to do this. I couldn't attach the link but the information down below is a copy and paste from Bearing Buddy web site.

One thing I also do and may not be necessary but when I pump grease into my hubs, (when new and also as they age) is I jack the wheel and spin it as I very slowly pump in the grease. I find this help in removing the air, especially when new. When the air is removed and the hubs are full there's nowhere for the water to penetrate until your rear seal starts to wear and grease starts to seep out. When topping up the hubs as time goes by, it only take a couple of pumps. If you overfill, it will either squeeze out around the seal (making a mess on the inside of the wheel) or will squeeze out the front of the bearing buddy. I've heard guys say that they have popped the rear seal by adding grease. Either they have had a poorly fitted seal or they have pumped in too much grease and too fast as Bearing Buddys compensate for a bit of overpreasuring. Same goes if the grease expands due to heat but I think that if your hubs get hot enough to expand and pop your seal,,,you have other issues. (Just my 2 cents)


Copied from Website:
How Genuine Bearing Buddy® Works
The axle hub is filled with grease until the grease forces the Bearing Buddy® piston outward about 1/8 inch. Because the piston is spring loaded, the piston exerts a slight (3 PSI) pressure against the grease, which maintains a slight pressure between the inside of the hub and the outside environment. When the hub is submerged, water cannot enter the hub because of this pressure. An automatic pressure relief feature prevents over-filling and over pressurization. See Bearing Buddy diagram: Without this feature, the inner seal will be damaged.

Grease can be added to the hub through an easily accessible grease fitting located in the center of the piston. Lubricant level (and pressure) can be checked quickly by pressing on the edge of the moveable piston. If you can rock or move the piston, the hub is properly filled. In addition to packing the bearings in the traditional manner, it's best to get as much grease as possible inside the hub cavity between the bearings and then, while the Bearing Buddy® is off, fill it with grease as well from the backside. The air pockets inside the hub cavity and Bearing Buddy® will work their way out past the piston (or blue ring) on the Bearing Buddy®.
You should see the piston extend out or the blue ring past the front of the Bearing Buddy® when it's properly filled. However, as air escapes the piston (or blue ring) is going to collapse inward. This is normal. After driving several miles, check the piston (or blue ring) to see if it has moved inward. If it has, add a little more grease to get the piston to move outward or the blue ring to move about 1/8" past the front of the Bearing Buddy®. You may have to do this a couple of times before all the air pockets are gone and the entire hub cavity is filled with grease.
Bearing Buddy® will last the life of your trailer. The outer barrel is made of steel and is triple chrome plated. Internal Bearing Buddy® parts are made of stainless steel. Bearing Buddy® is also available with a stainless steel barrel for maximum corrosion protection.
 
That seems like a lot of work! I believe in just packing the bearings to the max. I bought a 19ft boat with a double axle trailer in 1983. Still have it today. The trailer has about 30,000 miles on it. Never checked the buddy bearings until two years ago, so 35 years. Always greased before each trip. The trailer has baby moon hub caps and the dealer told me to put a hole in center with a rubber grommet. The gun fits the hole. Hub cap contains 80% of overspray grease. Spray grease keeps things from rusting. Scrub wheels a little when you wash the boat and all is good. Replaced bearings two years ago. They looked new, just a little worn. Trailer has always been in garage and never seen salt water. Your TLC of being real careful of how you pump grease in will never counteract the weather and salt. So my philosophy is just pack the bearings to the max.
If salt and weather, check every year or two.
 
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