mixing elbow 4jh4 hte yanmar 110 hp

jimbeam

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Fluid Motion Model
C-248 C
Hull Identification Number
FMLT2545G708
Vessel Name
waite & sea
Need to change the mixing elbow on my 2008 R25 with a 4 jh4-hte yanmar. It's the old style ( kinda square type). Can I change it for the newer stainless elbow? In the parts catalog it looks like I could replace the old with the newer type but you never know. New part number is 129673-13552. 600 hours on the engine. It recommends replace at 500 Hrs.
Jimbeam
 
The people at Mack Boring would be your best resource for the answer to your question.
http://mackboring.com/

I owned a Cutwater with a Volvo D3 for 5 years and have no complaints with the engine. Great running engine. The only complaint I had was the ability to get information. If I needed to get information about a service recommendation or a part. I had to rely on a dealer. Many dealers were searching for information and struggling to get it too. This summer I sold the Cutwater and purchased a boat powered with a pair of Yanmar's. During a service procedure I needed information and a part recommendation. I called Mack Boring and spoke with a service representative on the phone. I was given a detailed description of the procedure, a part number. The technician sent an electronic service manual to my email address along with the complete parts manual for the engine model in my boat. The service technician then offered his cell number to call him directly if I had any issues with the service I was doing. My engines are not under warranty, the engines are 19 years old. The technician was knowledgable, experienced and knew theses engines like he was in the engine compartment with me.

I was impressed! If you have Yanmar's this is a great resource for information and parts. Parts are a bit more in price over online sales distributers but because of the service provided I will pay !
 
I'm curious, how does one know when to replace the mixing elbow, i.e. how do they fail? Or are you just following a standard maintenance guideline which calls for replacement at some interval of time? Thanks, GF
 
Jim,

It's true that the Yanmar manual calls for replacing the mixing elbow every 500 hours. The generic recommendation seems rather conservative to me, but I've seen some corroded elbows that were definitely ready to replace.

However, it's also true that in 2008, when Yanmar was making this engine for the R-25, there were two optional mixing elbows, one stainless steel and one cast bronze and painted gray. My boat is equipped with the bronze elbow, and I suspect yours is, too. There are line drawings of both in the parts book. The bronze part has four threaded plugs in various places.

I have 2875 hours on my boat, including the original engine and mixing elbow. I've had it off two or three times. Each time I cleaned it with a hose and a small brass wire brush. I've never found anything more that a light layer of soot. Other owners have reported similar results.

By all means, remove your elbow, clean and closely inspect it. Replace the gasket (129472-13520) and use some anti-seize on the stud threads before you reinstall. It's your decision, but after this, you'll likely be taking a new stainless mixing elbow off your Christmas wish list.

This would also be a good time to replace the exhaust hose between the elbow and the muffler and maybe the water hose that allows the seawater to enter the elbow. There's also a particularly devilish coolant hose (129672-49500 PIPE, OVER FLOW) that hides behind the mixing elbow and gets very hot. You'll need to at least partially drain the coolant to replace this hose. Mine was rather crispy when it came out.

While you're at it, I do recommend carefully inspecting all of your rubber hoses and replacing anything the least bit suspect. And so long as you are hanging upside-down with your head in the bilge, take a look at the pipe that connects the bottom of the turbo to the port side of the oil pan. You'll find another thread on that one from several years ago.

Good luck! Please send a private message if you want to talk directly.

Rich
 
Going with Rich's recommendation. I would not replace it just because the mannual says to. Inspect it. You will see if it needs replacing. A good cleaning in barnacle buster or rydlyme will do the trick.
 
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