new cutwater boat to replace the C28

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mourinor9177

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R-25 (Outboard)
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FMLT2542E424
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Ladyann
Can you update your web site to reflect the new model with pictures that is replacing the C28. Thanks
 
mourinor9177":2moic6z0 said:
Can you update your web site to reflect the new model with pictures that is replacing the C28. Thanks

Hello,

Currently this boat is still in the R&D process and not yet available for purchase. Once the boat is in production we will post pictures. Getting excited to show everyone, going to be an awesome boat...wish I could share more.

Thanks,
 
Any idea of the timeline? Was thinking of pulling the trigger on a c24 coupe, even though the building I am going to store it in is still an open field.
 
Could be fun further speculation........

OB
Seakeeper1 oem
Redesigned layout


hrmmm...........
 
not convinced there will be a seakeeper as standard. cost would probably make the boat uncompetitive.

i can see

1. OB
2. movable seats in the cockpit like the Jeanneaus
3. General redesign for the stern so the outboard pod doesnt look like an addition to the hull like on the 30.
3. more glass / contemporary styling upgrade for cabin
4. tweaks to the design to make a CB option.
5. I could see more focus on trailability in the 28 and move the 30 away from trailability rather than compromise the design because of it - i'm looking at you radar tower 😀

big question is whether there will continue to be a diesel option. the PNW boaters do love that option. the gas outboards do create a dual fuel issue for heating which seems to add complexity to the boats who want a diesel heater.
all depends on the audience cutwater is targeting. if FML have to look beyond PNW for growth then we will see more influence from customer needs outside the PNW likely pushing in the direction of OB power.

The 28 redesign might be the first boat of a new family which will have lines similar to a potential 36/38 design philosophy. i.e. Test it out with the 28 as they did with the current model range.

I'd definitely ask for a switch to all victron power systems and Lithium batteries and more solar in any new design.
 
I don't understand the OB obsession; with the exception of speed (that is difficult to safely use), there are no advantages. I hope this one stays diesel!
 
New emissions issues for diesels possibly driving the outboards ???
 
you could always keep the diesel option and go with an OXE outboard. It would be even beneficial in docking as you can go from full speed ahead to reverse and not damage anything.

stuart
 
Good stuff but I’d pay 25k(seakeeper plus markup) extra for gyro stabilization offshore in SoCal.

No one else realizes this advantage? I feel this will be a standard option on vessels over 28-30’ within the next 5 years.
 
Cutwater dont forget that many use dinghy during their cruise and find a way to store them . engine options prop options for those looking for low fuel cost or those that what to fly . Love the cutwater design dont make it look like the Tugs even though they have been getting closer to the cutwater design. Design in more access to where the equipment is placed. AC the water tanks pumps and good docs on how to get to them . Love the walk thru bow pulpit. I have to nose in due to shallow water at my dock. Love the Northeastern design, very good head room. All the things I love about the boat. Just make access to equipment space easier which is my only complaint. Getting too old to bend into a pretzilla.
 
Severum88":3mzglcq1 said:
Good stuff but I’d pay 25k(seakeeper plus markup) extra for gyro stabilization offshore in SoCal.

No one else realizes this advantage? I feel this will be a standard option on vessels over 28-30’ within the next 5 years.
Advantages are clear, not sure whether there is enough real estate in Ranger Tugs and Cutwaters to fit this in.
 
srhawk454":1uoeosb6 said:
Severum88":1uoeosb6 said:
Good stuff but I’d pay 25k(seakeeper plus markup) extra for gyro stabilization offshore in SoCal.

No one else realizes this advantage? I feel this will be a standard option on vessels over 28-30’ within the next 5 years.
Advantages are clear, not sure whether there is enough real estate in Ranger Tugs and Cutwaters to fit this in.

I had a Seakeeper put in my ‘21 R27. Lots of stringer work and added 450lbs but i wouldn’t want this or any non-lake boat without one. I figure the weight is about equal to the generator, kicker motor and dinghy with lift system from the factory and I saved a bunch of weight getting rid of the agm’s and going to lithium.

I also like the outboards because I tend to hit stuff, easier to change out a prop above the water. The motor pod on the R27 looks like it was designed for twins. Two 200’s would have been great. Maybe they will put a pair of 250’s on the new C28.
 
Brian 27 OB":yeyay56t said:
srhawk454":yeyay56t said:
Severum88":yeyay56t said:
Good stuff but I’d pay 25k(seakeeper plus markup) extra for gyro stabilization offshore in SoCal.
I had a Seakeeper put in my ‘21 R27. Lots of stringer work and added 450lbs but i wouldn’t want this or any non-lake boat without one. I figure the weight is about equal to the generator, kicker motor and dinghy with lift system from the factory and I saved a bunch of weight getting rid of the agm’s and going to lithium.

Would love to see the setup/pixs if you have them available, sounds like it is possible!
 
I'm personally hoping that they stick with the Volvo Penta diesel line, there are enough outboards out there. However, I wish they'd take a page out of the offshore rated Scandanavian builders like Sargo and pair the diesel with an out drive for proper fuel efficient planing and maneuverability. Their 11 foot wide 31 foot pilot house cruises well in excess of 30 knots, loafing along at only 7 gallons an hour or so at a comfortable 22 knots or so with 400 horses. We could probably get the same result in a 28 with the D4 - 320. Similarly, it would be great to see an offset cabin with a real walkway and captains door. Easy to do if you scrap the walk entirely on the other side or go with a flip down ledge. The solar panels could move to the top of an optional hardtop Bimini and allow water toys to be all loaded and unloaded from the walkway. NW boaters appreciate cabin and windshield heat from the engine, diesel furnaces, fuel efficiency, and speed for long transits, not to mention good sea keeping. I second hanging on to the bow pulpit and ladder - it sure makes launching and loading from a trailer easy, and is the best way to load and unload water toys when at anchor.
 
pleeson":fujvoi11 said:
I'm personally hoping that they stick with the Volvo Penta diesel line, there are enough outboards out there. However, I wish they'd take a page out of the offshore rated Scandanavian builders like Sargo and pair the diesel with an out drive for proper fuel efficient planing and maneuverability. Their 11 foot wide 31 foot pilot house cruises well in excess of 30 knots, loafing along at only 7 gallons an hour or so at a comfortable 22 knots or so with 400 horses. We could probably get the same result in a 28 with the D4 - 320. Similarly, it would be great to see an offset cabin with a real walkway and captains door. Easy to do if you scrap the walk entirely on the other side or go with a flip down ledge. The solar panels could move to the top of an optional hardtop Bimini and allow water toys to be all loaded and unloaded from the walkway. NW boaters appreciate cabin and windshield heat from the engine, diesel furnaces, fuel efficiency, and speed for long transits, not to mention good sea keeping. I second hanging on to the bow pulpit and ladder - it sure makes launching and loading from a trailer easy, and is the best way to load and unload water toys when at anchor.

Does that Sargo really get 3nmi/gal??
 
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