New Garmin software

Heronboy

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Yesterday I called Garmin as we are getting ready to head back to FL for Christmas. I had a few questions about software upgrades and hardware (I want to add Autoguidance and a camera to the 31). I’m glad I did instead of just buying online.

My apologies in advance if some of you know this stuff but it was always confusing to me so it was nice to get a lesson from the source.

For several years Garmin has had chartplotter map/software upgrades called BlueChart G2 HD and BlueChart G2 Vision HD software. Let’s just call them G2 and G2 Vision to keep my fingers from cramping. G2 and G2 Vision offer increased detail over the built in base map but at the expense of regionalizing that data. This means you need to purchase carefully in order to avoid unnecessary expense. For instance, where we are south of Naples, multiple overlapping G2 Vision map upgrades are available. However, each is different overall with some going up the west coast of FL, some into the Caribbean and none covering all of FL and the Caribbean. And in case you are wondering, the G2 Vision maps are the same as the G2 maps but add Autoguidance, satellite imagery and coastal road maps. Not all areas of the globe have G2 Vision or even G2 upgrades available.

However, starting in February 2019 that all changes. Garmin will be introducing G3/G3 Vision series software about that time. G3 will have several notable changes/enhancements.

1. G3 will add Autoguidance meaning G3 Vision will be set apart strictly by the inclusion of images.

2. Pricing should be similar, whatever that means.

And here are the biggest kickers:

3. The G3 maps will be much larger. The rep I spoke to noted that it is possible that North America would be broken into only three maps. East coast, West coast and Canada/AK. This is subject to change ahead of the launch but the dozens of North American G2 Vision maps now currently available (and the frustration of choosing between or buying multiple upgrades) will likely disappear.

4. And remember when Garmin bought Navionics last year? Well, here’s the payoff. All G3 maps will incorporate Navionics.

The only caution the rep added is that due to the size of the G3 maps, only SD cards of 16 GB or larger will work. And due to FAT32 file restrictions in the chartplotters’ Windows architecture cards above 32 GB can’t be used either. So only 16 GB and 32GB cards will work. And the card will have to live in the slot in the chartplotter. But hey, Navionics! In other good news, networked boats with multiple chartplotters (like the CB models) only need to have one chartplotter upgraded.

Again, apologies if this was already discussed but a quick forum search turned up nothing so I thought it useful to post.
 
Interesting info. What Chartplotter do you have? Many of us are using the 5212. Did they say what the new chips are compatible with? What I find discouraging on the auto guidance, especially in Florida on the ICW, is that it always wants to bring you on the outside and many times that is not our choice because of winds. I then have to do short legs to trick it to staying on the ICW. Also, if where you are or where you are going is shallow it will not initiate a route. I realize that is for legal purposes, but they should allow you to over ride that and confirm you take on the responsibility. Hey, right from the get go they make you agree that the ball is in your court so why not let us auto route as a choice.
 
Knotflying, go online, download the manual for the 5212, and look at page 57. It shows you how to configure the autoguidance for different depths, heights, and distances from shore. I was having the same problem with my unit (though a later model) till I discovered how to reconfigure it.
Edit: It’s p. 53 of the actual manual (it showed up as p. 57 on my reader).
 
Thanks for this info. I had not heard about this but should make purchasing a new map in the spring an easier decision.
 
Wee Venture":2wgxl809 said:
Knotflying, go online, download the manual for the 5212, and look at page 57. It shows you how to configure the autoguidance for different depths, heights, and distances from shore. I was having the same problem with my unit (though a later model) till I discovered how to reconfigure it.
Edit: It’s p. 53 of the actual manual (it showed up as p. 57 on my reader).

I did that. There may be some hidden default. Keep in mind on the east coast depth can be fairly shallow in spots. I even put minimum depths to 2 feet and closest to shore etc. and still no joy. Perhaps it also takes into consideration that you can go faster on the outside rather than the ICW and routes you that way regardless. The reason I assume this is because if I set a destination well before the next inlet it will then route me on the ICW.
 
I think the key question about G3 for me will be whether the ageing CPU and RAM in the 5212 will be able to handle the additional data and larger map size. As we all know from our computed, the latest software tends to slow down the laptop with the extra code and content. I see no reason for the G3 maps to be any different.

for me therefore there are two questions

1. does the 5212 support the G3 maps
2. is the performance still usable on the 5212 with G3. The screen redraw is not exactly fast as it is with G2.
 
I was on the line with Garmin about my 5215 and the customer service rep said that the 5215 will not be able to use the new capabilities of the g3 maps, specifically Navionics info. I presume that will also include the 5212.

Bob
 
knotflying":2f1yy8je said:
Interesting info. What Chartplotter do you have? Many of us are using the 5212. Did they say what the new chips are compatible with?

We have the 7616/7612 combo. Looking back at my notes from the call, no mention was made of a cutoff for age or model numbers on G3 compatibility. Hopefully, they post this once the software is released.
 
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