No power to starboard AC outlets

quinsky

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Fluid Motion Model
R-21 EC
Hull Identification Number
FMLC2813H
Vessel Name
Compass Rose
MMSI Number
338302374
Recently I lost power to the three starboard AC outlets on my CW28. They were working fine using the inverter just two days ago. Ive been doing a lot of work on the boat so I checked for damaged wires but found none. The switch on the main panel is lit but I don't hear the inverter kick in when I turn the switch on (like it does when I turn the port side outlets on). The port side outlets are working. The ground fault in the head is not lit and will not test or reset. It seems that if I damaged a wire the breaker would trip or I would only lose power to one or two outlets vs all three. I pulled the main switch panel but didn't see anything amiss. Is there a breaker between the switch panel and the outlets? Could it be a faulty breaker? I don't see an AC schematic in the manual.
 
I would be suspecting a ground fault outlet is the culprit. I have had this happen to me when the ground fault in the head tripped I lost starboard outlets. I thought the outlet at the dinette would still work but it did not. When I reset the ground fault all outlets worked again. If the green light is on at the breaker and both outlet breakers are on port and starboard(I ask this because the factory wired mine wrong, port is starboard outlet starboard is port outlets) I would look at the ground fault being bad. Easy test : pull outlet cover and use a VOA meter and test for voltage on line in connectors voltage present bad ground fault receptacle. No voltage: do the same test at breaker, load line voltage test at outlet breaker voltage present you have an open between breaker and outlet. No voltage bad breaker.
 
quinsky":2ikmqoze said:
Recently I lost power to the three starboard AC outlets on my CW28. They were working fine using the inverter just two days ago. Ive been doing a lot of work on the boat so I checked for damaged wires but found none. The switch on the main panel is lit but I don't hear the inverter kick in when I turn the switch on (like it does when I turn the port side outlets on). The port side outlets are working. The ground fault in the head is not lit and will not test or reset. It seems that if I damaged a wire the breaker would trip or I would only lose power to one or two outlets vs all three. I pulled the main switch panel but didn't see anything amiss. Is there a breaker between the switch panel and the outlets? Could it be a faulty breaker? I don't see an AC schematic in the manual.

Patrick,

What work was performed on the boat? This would give me a good clue into what is going on here with your boat, also do you have a outlet tester? It plugs into the outlet and lets you know whats going on with the outlet by displaying different combination of lights. If you want, you can email me and we can chat that way. My email is below in my signature.

Thank you,
Kevin Lamont
 
quinsky,

I suspect that you have another GFCI outlet that has been tripped. It seems that you should have 2-3 GFCI outlets, not just one.

Although my R31S has a different layout than your Cutwater 28, mine has 3 GFCI outlets - one near the galley sink, one in the head, and one in the mid-berth. Try looking for another GFCI outlet that has been tripped.
 
is the one under the galley table GFCI?
 
Cutwater28GG":35br989o said:
is the one under the galley table GFCI?

It is not on my boat. GFCI in head starboard side outlets, GFCI Galley sink port side. The outlet under the dinette is a standard receptacle on the same circuit as the head GFCI .
 
BB Marine, you were right. The GFCI was bad. Thanks
 
I'm glad it was an easy repair.
 
Not sure if this is a GFI problem or not? Perhaps all outlets are linked thru one of the GFI's? My 2012 Cutwater has been on the hard all winter with battery tenders, and humidity control low wattage heaters in the engine compartment and cabin. Total load about 5 amps. These loads all plugged into factory outlets supplied by panel from "Shore" power. One was plugged into the head GFI outlet. I checked on the boat every few weeks and all was well. Last check the heaters weren't operating, there was no power to any of the outlets. No change in anything other than perhaps a brief grid power outage or two since last visit Still power entering the shore power receptacle in the cockpit. Nothing on the A/C meter on the panel. I cycled the main breaker, as well as port and starboard outlet breakers. What would create a situation where with such small loads the entire A/C system is dead? Scratching my head as to where to begin.
 
Did you check the ELCI under the stove?
 
I didn't know there was any AC control or routing under the stove. I will look but it's a propane range and all the AC distribution stuff and panel appear to be in the cave and the wall between the cave and engine room.
 
There is a ElCI in the back of the cabinet under the stove. If you have no 120V power that is the culprit. If you have 120 V at the panel it is not the ELCI. I have had it trip a few times when we over loaded the circuit. It can also trip if there is a imbalance in the circuit and current is leaking to ground. It can also trip if your green ground lead is open or broken. example bad connection at shore power with ground. Most likely it tripped when you had a power outage. reset it and see if all works.
 
Brian, well many thanks. I had no idea that there was anything electrical in the back of the locker under the kitchen range! No power to panel so that must be it. When I get back to the boat I'll pull the pots and pans and grab a flashlight! I'd say you just saved me a whole lot of grief. Much appreciated.
 
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