Portland show and tell

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Cutwater 28
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Greetings from Portland, OR. My wife and I are planning to give up our sailboat for a powerboat and need help deciding. Ranger tugs and C-Dorys (22or 25) are on our list of possibilities, partly due to the strong following noted on the owner sites. We will be using it on the Columbia and Willamette rivers near Portland for day cruises with a rare overnight. Trailering to the Puget Sound is a possibility but not a priority. We are looking for something small enough to single-hand, able to day cruise up to six and sleep two. We would love to hear suggestions and comments and grateful to anyone in the Portland area who would consider showing off their boats.
We did take a "test drive" on a Ranger 21EC a few years ago and were surprised at the noise and vibration after being accustomed to the gurgle of the sailboat passing through the water. We are not sure if this is typical of any power boat or if others are smoother and quieter?
Thanks for any feedback.
Michael
 
First, I cannot give you any first hand experience with the C-Dorys but will say I've not heard any bad things about the boat. From what I do know the C-Dory does not offer the same creature comforts that the Ranger Tug does, especially considering the current Ranger Tugs R-25SC, R-27, R-29 and R-31. Then there's the price comparisons between the C-Dory and Ranger Tugs.

I have the MY2010 R-25 and we love it. It isn't too noisy at cruising around 8 to 10 kts. Close the cabin door and the noise level diminishes nicely. The R-27s are quieter as their engines are moved further aft and consequently there's less noise in the cabin.

The R-25/R-27 accommodate 2 with ease and comfort. They can handle 6 people without issues for day trips as well.

I've taken my R-25 out on my owned multiple times and have not had any issues handling things on the water nor when docking.

You might also take a look at the Ranger-built Cutwater boats C-26 and C-28. Check their web site for details.

I suspect no power boat will be as quiet as your sailboat.

The best you can do is to get out on the boats to determine what you like and dislike about them.

For what you've described in your OP I would say the R-25SC would make a good choice for you as it's the least expensive (ignoring the R-21EC) Ranger Tug. The more expensive R-27 adds a lot more refinement and is good value for your money.

You might also want to consider a used R-25SC or a used R-27 to save some brass.

Good luck in making your decision. 🙂 ...and let us know what you ultimately decide.
 
Do you know what "boat trader" is selling that almost new R-27 for ?
 
159K loaded and low hours. barnd new with no options is 159k. I think it's a good deal, boat is in perfect condition judging by the photos
 
We took delivery of our R-25 SC on March 2, 2012. We previously owned a C-Dory 22 Cruiser. There is no comparison when one considers creature comforts. No contest. The Ranger is beautiful and great to cruise anywhere. That being said, I noticed one (2012 R-25SC) for sale in the Peninsula Daily News this morning for $119, 500, located in Sequim, WA. Seems like a great deal. You might check the newspaper web site classifieds. Good Luck!
 
Thanks for all of the great feedback. Can anyone tell me aside from the appearance and layouts, what are the differences between the Ranger 25 or 27 and the Cutwater 26 and 28? What are the reasons aside from these why one would choose Ranger over Cutwater or vice versa?
Thanks,
Michael
 
Good question Michael

The CW's are faster, the heads are below, that can be good or bad, the flat area in the CW head is very small because most of it slopes up and your standing on the side walls. When sleeping in the forward berth you cannot open the head door al the way. We spent a few days on a 28 a few weeks ago, the shorter people driving the boat complained about the visability over the bow, and always having to raise the dinette rear seat to get at electronic controls, ie Webasto heater etc. The boat was quiet even at speed and the all around visability was fantastic. We were pretty much going to buy one ourselves and the following day bought an R27. We do not need the speed especially at a greater guel burn rate and the wife really liked the visability over the bow. We had troubled with the CW vs Tug decision for over a year, so it really comes down to if you want the speed and how the cabin works for you, the galley configuration is really important so let the wife get an idea what it is like to cook in each model. With the propane stove next to the cabin door the pilot kept getting blown out from a light breeze, so had to close the door or burn the eggs on a higher heat, these kind of things one only finds when using the boat. Many of the CW boaters don't do lots of long term living on the boat, Ranger owners do more of this.

Hope this helps

Don
 
That is very helpful Don. Thank you.
Michael
 
We have a C28 and live across the river from you in Vancouver. We would be glad to show you our boat though it is setting inside winterized for the year. email me if you would like to talk - DormanHolcomb@gmail.com
 
Hi Michael,

I just came across this thread, but thought I might be able to give you some perspective. Before buying our C-Dory, we were avid sailors. As a point of comparison, we owned a Com-Pac SunCat, which is pretty similar to the Seaward Fox. If you compare any powercruiser to your small sailboat (while under sail), there will be more noise... just like when the motor is running on your Fox. The sensations are different, compared to sitting in the cockpit of a small sailboat and being inside the cabin of a C-Dory or a Ranger Tug. If you were to ride in the cabin of your Fox while motoring (hard to do while singlehanding 😉 ), the sounds and sensations would be different, as well.

Sure, you know all that. We had other, larger sailboats, but it was that little SunCat that convince us that we would enjoy a powercruiser... after motoring 7 hours into a headwind and sloppy waves to get home one day. In the Rangers or C-Dorys, you stay comfortable and dry while at the helm; it is easy to stay out longer when you are out of the wind/sun/rain/cold. Stand up height in the cabins. A great view from anywhere in the cabin... imagine sitting at the dinette while at anchor, enjoying a cup of coffee while watching the sunrise... in warmth and comfort. Think you'd miss the cockpit of your Fox? Picture comfortable chairs in the cockpit of the powercruisers, toasting a sunset.

When we were considering a C-Dory (before the first Ranger 25 Tug was made), we went for a ride on one: it was drizzly and in the mid-40s outside. We were comfortable in shirtsleeves in the C-Dory with the Wallas heater going. I commented about the noise difference compared to our sailboat (at that time, a Corsair trimaran)... shortly after that, we passed a 40' sailboat. There were three people huddled in the cockpit behind the dodger, getting what protection they could from the weather. My wife said, "Well, you could be doing that instead of this." Sold!

We knew we would be doing some cruising with the C-Dory, but didn't realize how easy it would be to make that extended cruising (months at a time). The "noise" from the motor is a low frequency sound, and not obtrusive under most circumstances. Kinda soothing, actually.

How about rigging time? If your Fox is the catrig with the carbon fiber mast, it probably takes you at least 15 minutes to get set up when you are at the ramp. If it is the sloop version, probably closer to a half hour. With the C-Dory or Ranger, pull up to the ramp, undo the straps, and launch. Certainly, more weight and mass than the Fox, but more liveability, as well.

I didn't think we'd ever not have a sailboat, even after we bought the C-Dory. In fact, we kept the SunCat for several years along with the C-Dory, in case we wanted to go sailing. With both of them easy to access, we always tended to take the C-Dory because of the comfort. Don't get me wrong, there are days when the weather is perfect for sailing: upper 70s, sunny, wind @ 10 and not on the nose. 😎 And those days are just as comfortable at a protected inside helm.

Our tastes change over time. I still enjoy sailing. Every once in a while, I suggest another sailboat to my wife, and she brings me back to reality with, "I don't want to work that hard. You can do that with your next wife." :mrgreen: I have a sail for my Hobie kayak that I rarely use... I have sailing friends - OPB (other people's boats) can be good for the time when you want to feel the pull of the sail.

It may sound like I'm trying to talk you into this. No, just letting you know that others have been where you are. Yes, there are differences. Powercruisers aren't "the dark side," they are another option for being on the water... an option that has worked well for many of us.

Good luck with your search.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
We are on our second Ranger. We had an R-25SC 2010. It was a wonderful boat. I sold it and puchase a 40' Silverton. Had it for one year, and have now returned to a Ranger Tug. We have an R-27 2013. We love it. I am so glad to be back in the Ranger family.
You will never be sorry for buying a Ranger Tug.

Jim Wilson
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