Ranger 23 OAL on Trailer

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SailorMan718

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Howdy from Montgomery, TX,

I'm building a new home and part of the project will be a barn that I plan on storing my boat and RV in. I have a C-Dory 22 now but plan to upgrade to a Ranger Tug when I retire. I want to store the boat in my barn but have two questions before I finalize the design.

1. What is the OAL on trailer for the new RT 23?
2. What is the OAL on trailer for the RT 25?

What the heck, while I'm at it...

3. What is the OAL on trailer for the RT 27?

Right now I'm looking at making my barn 35' deep.

Thanks,

Mike Johnson
 
R27 on ez loader trailer 36' plus overhang of swim platform about 3 ft

You 35 ft will not work for a r27 on a trailer
 
Hi Mike,

I built a custom garage for our R27 so I can offer details about the R27 as well as some other suggestions, some of which I included by design, some of which I added after getting the boat inside and some of which I wish I had thought of but am too late for now. I have pictures of all of this and will post them soon (tomorrow?)

1) The R27 is 35' 10.5" on the trailer (with the swim grid). I know this because I have exactly 36' between the door and the landing at the back of the swim step. It is a tight fit but it works! I actually have a slightly larger trailer than normal that was meant for a C28 but modified for the R 27 (It's a long story). I have had the boat in with the standard trailer in the garage so I know that arrangement as well. There is some ability to adjust the OAL by adjustIng the location of the winch stand but you need to manage the tongue weight when making changes.

2) If you back your boat up to the wall it can be a pain to get around it and get on the boat both sides. I chose to put a 3 ft landing against the wall at the height of the swim step (48 in. for the R 27). This adds three feet to the interior of the building. I highly recommend doing this if you can add the additional length. I also put stairs up to the landing on both sides. This makes access to the boat from either side very nice. I also put an exterior door to the outside at the height of the landing. While not absolutely necessary it was convenient for the building design so I chose to do it. Code requires a railing on the landing and stairs. I chose to put a removable rail for both. When the boat is on the water the railing is in place, when the boat is in the garage I remove all rails for easier access. The interior of the garage is 15 ft wide.

3) Heat and Insulation: Because of the layout of our garage the port side wall is insulated but not the starboard side. This was simply a matter of cost. Fully insulated may be better but I chose to heat the boat and not the garage. The boat garage has no heat but is adjacent to a heated garage. It never drops below freezing in our climate even if no heat is added to the boat. To keep it dry I use a portable ceramic heater in the boat cabin and leave the engine access under the step open to keep the engine warm. I can always choose to add heat to the whole garage in the future is needed after I quit making changes to the space!

4) Power: I put a 30A Marine supply outlet near the port side just under the edge of the landing. I also am reconfiguring to add 120v outlets on each side of the landing to power for tools etc. while working under the swim grid. They are currently on the walls which is not as convenient. The boat is left connected to 120v AC continuously (batteries charging) while in the garage.

5) Water supply: I have a hose bib under the landing on the port side for supplying fresh water to the tank and to provide water for cooling during engine tests (see below). Ideally this hose bib would have been on the starbard side for the R27 but the port wall is insulated so I used a frost free hose bib there making potential freezing a non issue.

6) Grey (and black water) drainage: I added a dump port to our septic system in the floor of the garage under the landing for grey and black water drainage. It is nice to be able to dump and flush the system while in the garage. Ranger added an extra Y valve to the boat to aenable the macerator to pump the black water into to the septic tank. They also built a friction fit manifold to collect the grey water from the shower, head sink, and kitchen sink which I run to the septic tank. This all allows us to use all the water systems on the boat while in the garage. Very useful when doing fall cleaning/flushing of all the systems.

7) Engine cooling water supply: I feed the regular fresh water hose directly into the seawater strainer (with the cover removed) for engine cooling. A standard garden valve on the end of the hose allows me to control the water flow while I the boat. It will overflow however but I let the excess water run to (clean) the bilge and get pump out via the bilge pumps (see engine ancillary drainage below).

8) Engine cooling and exhaust drainage: This item I unfortunately did not plan for for adequately. When doing maintenance on the boat you often need to start the boat to test your work or to warm the oil. For this purpose I have added an exhaust hose (standard auto repair shop high temp exhaust hose with a piece of muffler pipe to fit boat exhaust outlet) to a dryer vent under the landing. This exhausts gasses and cooling water out the building.

9) Ancillary drainage: In addition to the exhaust drainage there are drainage requirements for the bilge plug, the bilge pumps, and the prop shaft cooling. I didn't plan for these adequately. I would recommend a zip drain in middle of the garage floor if I were to do it over. In my case I am using a bucket to catch the bilge plug water, modifying the grey water manifold to collect bilge pump water, and adding a large tray under the prop to catch the prop shaft cooling water. Note that a zip drain in the floor would also allow you to wash the boat while in the garage!

With all the above features I can do all maintenance items with the boat in the garage! Very convenient. While clearly not necessary I highly recommend these features if you are building from scratch anyway and have the luxury to add what you need for the boat. Let me know if you want more details.

Curt
 
We built a boat barn for a different boat, prior to buying our 2013 R27 last year. Our garage is 40' in length, and on the trailer, with the dinghy hanging off of the swim step, I have just a couple of inches to spare. Another 2 to 4 feet would have been nice to get around either the stern or the trailer hitch. As it is, I built a step that I place under the trailer tongue to more easily step over. But 2 to 4 feet longer would have been ideal.

Really like Curt's suggestion of a built in platform w/stairs to align with the swim step. I don't have the depth available to do that, but may consider coming off of the starboard side only. We have our dinghy mounted on Weaver snap davits and would not want give up the convenience of having the dinghy always mounted, ready to go. But remember, that adds another 2 to 3 feet of of length needed for the garage.

We live in Anacortes, and the R27 is easy to stow for year-round boating (we did insulation and electric wall heaters in our garage so no need to winterize). While we are only 10 minutes away to launch, we have a lot if peace of mind that our investment is only exposed to the elements when in use. Also nice to be able to do projects on the boat under cover.

Mark
(Seaquel)
 
Excellent information and very helpful!

The 27 seems a popular size. If the cookie jar is full enough I would love to end up with this size RT.

If anyone has comments about the RT 23 or 25 that would help me finalize my design.

And I agree! A barn can never be too big 🙂

Mike
 
We just traded in our 2014 R-25SC on a R29S. We have a 28x34x12 barn. The 25 on the trailer fit in the barn diagonally with 1ft clearance on each end and 4in. clearance in height. Not much room for anything else, but enough to do all required maintenance. The barn was not built with the boat in mind, but did just managed to work. I would contact Andrew or Kenny at the factory and get the correct length and build the barn with an extra 4ft. in length and possibly some extra height. At this point I believe your looking at a custom built barn particularly in height.
 
I have added photos of the boat garage to our photo album.

We remove the dinghy before backing into the garage. This is not an issue for us as we keep the boat on the water over the summer and only move it into and out of the garage once each year. If we were launching with each use I would do as Mark (Seaquel) does and keep the dinghy on the davits while in the garage. With enough room you could still use a landing to get around the back if the landing were about 4 ft deep with the added benefit of being able to remove the dinghy while standing on the landing! 😀

The garage is 40' x 16' x 16' exterior (framing) dimensions with a 12' X 14' door. This leaves an interior space of 38' 10" x 15' x 16' (though entrance height is limited by 14' door). The width and height is good. I would recommend adding at least a foot to this for an R27 if you want a landing.

For any size boat adding four or five feet to the interior dimensions beyond the OAL creates lots of options.

Good luck with your barn design!

Curt
 
SailorMan718 said-
I'm building a new home and part of the project will be a barn that I plan on storing my boat and RV in. I have a C-Dory 22 now but plan to upgrade to a Ranger Tug when I retire. I want to store the boat in my barn but have two questions before I finalize the design.

You might want to consider building warm floors into the slab as a way to heat your "barn". If you insulate the walls and ceiling it can cost as little as $120./ month (cold months only, no cost in warm months) to heat the "barn" at least where I am in the Willamette Valley. I keep my floor at 53 degrees which is comfortable temp to work in. I am extremely happy with being able to use the barn as a workshop in the winter and never having to winterize the boat. Just a thought before you start building. A minimum of doors and windows will help keeping the heating bill down.
 
I have a 2015 R25SC on an Integrity Aluminum trailer. It fits in my 16 x 34 boat garage with a 12 foot high x 10 foot wide door. Boat on the trailer is 31 feet 7 inches. I have electric over hydraulic brakes and the coupler for that is shorter than hydraulic surge brakes so I would figure minimum of 33 feet. Most builders will measure outside dimensions so a 34 foot garage only gives me 32 feet 11 inches. 10 foot wide door makes for careful backing especially with an S curve driveway so the approach is not a straight line. If I had it to do over I would do a 12 foot wide door, but I built the garage 30 plus years ago for a Sea Ray with an 8 foot beam. The extra 6 inches in beam makes it lots more challenging.
 
Hey, Mike. Greetings from Justin, TX (north of Fort Worth). Glad to see you are considering a Ranger tug. We have a R25SC, which we store in our airplane hangar. If you are ever up in our part of the state please look us up. We get down to Conroe frequently. Not far from you.

Regards,
Kate and Gregg
Santolina
 
avpilot":2s8gzuzn said:
Hey, Mike. Greetings from Justin, TX (north of Fort Worth). Glad to see you are considering a Ranger tug. We have a R25SC, which we store in our airplane hangar. If you are ever up in our part of the state please look us up. We get down to Conroe frequently. Not far from you.

Regards,
Kate and Gregg
Santolina

The R25SC would be a fun boat!!

Hope to see a 23 soon

Mike
 
Thanks to all for the posts. My barn design will incorporate a number of your ideas and suggestions. Very helpful!

Cheers!

Mike
 
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