Ranger tug 27 ft. vs. 29ft

bluegg

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Looking for some opinions on the two tugs. We like features of both, but like the idea of the 27 ft. being more trailable.

We would appreciate any input.

Thanks,
Bluegg

Oops - this is in the wrong forum. I'll get the hang of it-- just got excited to join in! We have been learning about Ranger Tugs since we were in the San Juans in August and then headed to the Trawler Fest in Baltimore.
 
I think you're in the right place and agree with your reservations. The 29 takes a wide load permit (if you obey the law) and the 27 is the same beam as the 25 and takes no special permits. Just a little longer and heavier.

Charlie
 
Feel free to call me anytime for lots of details on towing my R-29. I will tow her anywhere with a big smile on my face! 😀

Stuart R-29 Spirit of Gratitude 970-946-3156
 
You may check, but I believe that North Carolina is one of the few states that allow a 10 foot boat to be towed without a permit. May make a difference for you.
 
I love my 29 and every inch makes a difference.
 
According to my chart, all states have a 8 1/2' width limit except for the following:
District of Columbia 8'
Hawaii 9'
New Jersey 8'

In Canada, the limit everywhere is 2.6m, which equals 8 1/2'.
 
Oh my gosh, thank you to everyone. Now I just have to get a Ranger Tug to qualify as one of you great TugNuts. 🙂

I appreciate all of the info and thoughts. Many good points were made. We are thinking of leaving our boat up in the NW for the first year or two to explore that beautiful corner of the world. Guess we will need storage of some kind. Southwest points will come in handy. (If we can be away from the boat that long.)

We had late season dock chores to do this weekend, we actually live just about full time at Smith Mountain Lake in VA. Each time I would run in the house, I would report back to Bob what y'all shared with us. We will use all the information as we make our boat length decision, what a great, fun dilemma.

Sorry to make this so long. Thanks again, keep 'em coming and someday I hope to share a gleaned tid bit or two on this board.

Cheers,
Gail
 
Gail and Bob,
Maureen and I moved up from the R-25 to the R-29 just about a year ago (Friday, 11/13/09). Our current home base is Henderson Nevada. However, we keep Karma, our R-29, in Port Orchard Washington. It is a great location about 15 miles west of Seattle. When the weather is rough on Puget Sound, we still have options of places we can go.

In the past 11 months, we have logged 200 nights aboard, 300 hours on the motor, and over 1600 nautical miles traveled! Not bad for someone that "lives" 1200 miles away!

Most weekends you will find us on Karma somewhere out and about on Puget Sound. We may be in Bell Harbor in downtown Seattle or perhaps in Poulsbo. We also enjoy Blake Island and hanging on the hook in Blakely Harbor. Wherever we choose to go, we always have a great time. It is not so much about the "boat", it is about being with someone you love and care for. So, with that being said, choose the biggest Ranger you can afford (you never want to be "boat poor"). Take the person that means the most to you, and spend as much time out on the water as you can. That is what it is all about!

On the matter of trailering. Stuart will tell you it is a piece of cake. Other's will tell you the R-29 is too big to trailer. Only you will be able to decide what you are comfortable with. We towed our R-25 every weekend that we owned her. She was a pleasure to tow. Not sure if Karma would be quite so easy. Almost two feet wider, 3000 pounds heavier, six feet longer....... Again though, some folks will tell you it is a piece of cake. Only you will be able to decide whether this is what you want to do.

Good luck with your decision!
 
Stuart,

I hope you don't mind, several days ago before I posted and you and many others replied --- I read your post about towing your 29 ft. Spirit of Gratitude and, here is where I hope you don't mind -- I immediately made the picture of Spirit of Gratitude being towed behind your truck my computer wallpaper. I hope that is ok. Wow and then there you were with help.

Bob will probably give you a call, thanks for the offer. Again we appreciate all the help.

Cheers,
gail
 
Hi Bob&Gail,
First of all I want to say I have no problem at all with using my pics for whatever. I am glad you are getting inspiration out of them.
When it comes to towing, I do want to say that weather it is the 25, 27 or the 29,they all deserve respect.
David is right when he said that it is a decision that you will need to make based on what you feel comfortable with.
Towing is really about paying attention . It is also very important to have the right truck that can handle the load.
There are lots of opinions on that and I will leave that alone for now. Dodge,Ford or Chevy all have trucks that are up for the job.
One question is do you have any towing experience at all, and if so what is it? If this is your first time towing a bigger boat then it needs to be approached with much respect. It is normal to feel some fear of the unknown, but what is fear? For me it is something that keeps me alert and on my toes while I am moving through it.
I had fear of towing my 29 when I made the deal to buy it. I used that time while I was waiting to get her to educate myself on towing bigger loads. I live in a small mountain town with lots of guys that are towing much more weight then I am everyday. So I spent time talking to them.
I towed my old boat which was around 10,000lbs all over. It was pretty easy. But I remember when I first started I was a bit alert as I was getting to know the feel of it.(That's another way of saying ,I was moving through my fear). Well the same was true with towing the 29. What was really scary to me was not the weight but the oversize load. My old boat was 8.6 and the 29 was a whole 9" more in width on each side for a total of 18" extra over all.
When I picked her up from the factory in Monroe and headed to put her in the water I insisted to Andrew that I wanted to tow her behind my truck. So I did and followed Andrew to the launch ramp.
The funny thing was that I was heading down the highway and thinking to myself , I am having a hard time seeing the difference in width. Now let me assure you there is a difference but it was very little to me.
The big deal that I made it in my mind before taking delivery of her was all melting away. From that point forward I traded my fear in for experience and knowledge the more I towed her.
So all that being said, I want to say that towing deserves much respect but should not be feared. If you are the kind of person that see's fear as a challenge, something to work though, then maybe the 29 is the boat for you.
Only you can look into yourself and decide that.
All I know is I see Ma and Pa Kettle towing large fifth wheels,motor homes, and boats that weigh as much or more then the 29 down the highway all the time. When I look over at them they seem to have a look of total conference as they are doing it. The only real difference is 9" width more on each side with the 29 and some permits.
That is a small price to pay for all the more boat you get when you go with a 29.
Stuart
 
Stuart, most interesting informative post. Thank you so much for your thoughts and insights. I copied and sent to Bob. That was the first thing he commented on when he just called. Thanks for your time. (I liked the 'look of confidence' comment.) -- We have towed boats, but not that large / heavy, good comment on your part. We agree with the challenge aspect and always enjoy spreading our wings -- part of the wonderful, exciting, continuing journey.

David and Maureen -- a question (what else) -- With your experience cruising the Puget Sound -- if you don't mind -- what are your thoughts on the two boat lengths that your have enjoyed on the Puget Sound. We will choose the 27 ft. or 29 ft., but the 25 ft. does have some of the same characteristics of the 27 ft.

Thank you, ya'll are most most helpful,
gail
 
Gail and Bob,
We owned our R-25 Solitude for 2 1/2 years and loved everyday of it. Even when we drove her up on a submerged mountain in Lake Mead....... Quite a shock, motoring along in over 200 feet of water and crunch! Hard aground! And I mean HARD aground. Solitude did much better than we did. We were devastated. We had only had her for six months and here she is sitting in six inches of water on solid rock! All was not lost. After using every flair and smoke signal we had, even the expired ones, a fellow boater and his wife spotted the last of the smoke signals and came to the rescue. They towed us off with no further damage and we headed for the marina. After spending three months getting repaired, she was better than new!

It was not a tough decision moving up to the R-29, it was just a tough period of negoiation. While Jeff is a salesman through and through, I was a buyer for a large retailer for many years...... put those two factors together and you will end up with a headache for sure.....

We loved our R-25 but wanted a boat that we could spend more extended time on. We knew that we would be leaving her in the PNW and commuting. Comfort was definently the name of the game. We use all of the equipment on board including the head and shower (even when in port). Knowing this was going to be the case, we wanted a larger head. The R-29 offers it.

We wanted a boat that could take the weather. We are not fair weather boaters. We go out when the wind is blowing, the rain is falling, and even when there was a very (and I mean very) thin layer of ice on the water in the marina. We have made night crossings of Puget Sound as well been out in some light fog. Karma has handled 95 percent of every type of weather we have encountered with no issues whatsoever. The only time we were very concerned and uncomfortable was when we had very LARGE following seas.

We also wanted a boat that you could entertain six people on and be comfortable. The R-25 was great for two to four but was a bit crowded with more than that. (we do not sleep six, our motto is; Sleep two, entertain six…. That’s why they have hotels!)

To say the R-29 is perfect would be a lie.

First thing I would change are the stairs in the cockpit. They are too big and make it very difficult to store anything under them. You have to figure out what goes where and it must go back in that location. They also take up a tremendous amount of the cockpit. I would prefer the setup that the R-25 and R-27 have.

I would also love to have a couch. The only way to do that though is to eliminate the mid ship cabin. While we would be good with that, the majority of people would not.

A bigger rudder would be nice also. Better handling at lower speeds.

These things being said, I am not sure there is the “perfect” boat out there. The boat has a lot of pluses.

The island berth is great. No more climbing into bed!

The head is just the right size and the electric toilet……. Very nice….. although a bit noise at night!

The galley is just right with just enough storage. The more storage, the more stuff you don’t really need ends up on board. We carry a service for six of Fiesta Dinner Ware as well as enough glass ware and coffee cups for eight. Yes, glass glasses, and ceramic dishes!

Servicing the motor is very easy for someone of my size, 5” 8” at 140 pounds. I can get into most any nook or cranny necessary.

However, after this is all said, I will go back to my previous post. You need to buy the boat you are comfortable with and can best afford. The last thing anyone wants is a boat that is too big for them to handle or too expensive to operate. Buy what you can afford, buy what you can handle, then go out and enjoy the water! That is what it is all about!
 
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