The new R-27/OB's redesigned V-berth cushions/table

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Subject: The new R-27/OB's redesigned V-berth cushions/table

I've found that the new R-27/OB's previous V-berth center cushion and table have been re-designed. Overall the re-design is very good. The previous one piece center cushion that rested on the lowered table and its flip up/down extension has been replaced by two smaller cushions, and a one-piece table made slightly smaller and more rectangular rather than its 'weird' previous shape. This smaller table also sports two coffee mug holders on its aft end much like is done for the dinette table's isle side. The original V-berth's table was supported by a hydraulic piston pole (similar to the one used for the cabin's dinette table) and IMO gave the table much stability and for me was very easy to raise and lower..... This was a feature I originally admired for its simplicity for raising and lowering the table.... Now, to my surprise 😱 this previous hydraulic pole has now been replaced 🙁 with a single piece pole (similar to the one used for the cockpit's table) and to lower or have the table raised one must manually removed the pole or re-install it as required. I'm told by RT this one piece pole will actually be better as the hydraulic piston pole was a bit awkward at times for raising the table up. Not really having any experience with these hydraulic type poles I have no opinion about the difference between having hydraulic vs. single fixed length pole for the table.

Of course, the boat will be equipped with two such table supporting poles; one for the V-berth's table and one for the cockpit's table. This IMO is a necessity as we will be having both the V-berth's and cockpit's table raised/installed at the same time quite frequently.

Given that there's mention that the hydraulic piston pole could be or can be awkward for being raised (not from my experience mind you), can others pitch in here and post their experiences with this issue I've been informed about ? Thanks.

I guess one of the advantages of having a single fixed removable pole for the V-berth's table will allow the pole and table to be stowed elsewhere making for a useful gangway/isle between the port and starboard V-berth bunks without having the fixed collapsed hydraulic pole in the way.
 
Barry,
I like the idea of the hydraulic lifting pole. But, when one of the salesmen was demonstrating at the show how easy it was to use, it gave him troubles. The question I had, will it get easier or harder to raise/lower over time? How easy is the solid pole to put in place/remove? If it is simple and easy to put the solid pole in place when you want the table in the berth and easy to remove when you want to lower the table for sleeping. It might be preferable to have the pole out of the way if you just wanted to remove the table completely to have easy access to the berths for reading or a quick lay down. More things to ponder.
I did like the odd ball shaped table with the cup holders in it, when you flipped the ends over. I will have to see the new table to decide which I like better.
My dealer was surprised to hear of the change to a solid pole as he said normally he gets an email or notice of some sort of any changes and he had received no such notice.
 
Jim: RT is making changes on the fly, so to speak at this time. This can be a bit annoying as when a customer places money/deposit on the table they obviously expect the boat when delivered to be same as they've viewed. The changes are being made by RT's engineering group and sometimes this is not being conveyed out to the field in a timely manner. For example, the V-berth cushions/table/pole re-design not only caught me by surprise but also Andrew Custis when discussing this with him last week. 😱

I've placed a new photo Album so you can see the re-design.

See http://www.tugnuts.com/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=49337
 
My experience is based on two removable pole tables on my previous Bayliner 265 compared to the hydraulic pole on my Ranger.

The benefit of the piston: Easy to raise or lower table when needed

The benefit of removable post: Space

With the removable post, you can lower the table and essentially now have storage underneath for those times you need to carry an oversized object. In my case it was a dog kennel. The only place it fit inside was at the foot of the v-berth. This came in handy if i needed to leave the dogs inside the boat when i went out for the night.

With the hydraulic post, i no longer have space fora dog kennel inside the cabin, the post under the dinette is always taking up that space
 
Robert.... yes, as my small grandson is always looking for places on the boat to hide away in.... :lol:
 
I don't see the need for a table in the V berth. You already have a table in the cockpit and another one in the cabin.

What good does it serve having a third table?

I use the V berth for sleeping and maybe stowing fishing poles if there aren't enough pole holders around the cockpit. It's the last place I am going if I want to sit around a table.

Just sayin....
 
WE want the V-berth to serve as a forward saloon during daytime.... grandkids want their own space to play games, watch TV, eat away from adults.... it's like having a separate room on the boat as apposed to JUST being a sleeping space which by and large goes unused all day long.
 
That makes sense...grandkids need a roomy place to play, interact...
JtK
 
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