tongue weight ---r25

[steveandtina]

hey all you tugnuts,, i need a really quick answer its now 1130 hrs sat am, i have to replace the jack on my king trailer. whats the tongue weight of an r-25 legacy hull # 15.. i will shortly post regarding the CHRISTINA BEE'S pending trip south to padre island to hook up with herb as soon as i get my four new tires mounted [more on that later] thank you --- steveandtina :? :idea:

 

[walldog]

I would go out on a limb and say less than 1000 lbs but close to it. Are you looking for a rating to replace your jack?

 

[walldog]

I looked at a boat for sale in Anacortes, it was a legacy 25 named Beluga. It was on a King trailer. I just happened to have taken a picture of the tongue showing a rating of 800 lbs. So I was not far off.

 

[bluebayou]

Hi, Steve,
Of course, there is no accurate, factual answer to your question, because, in real situations, it depends on a lot of variable factors:
1) the manufacture of your trailer---where is the balance point among the axles, in that trailer, and what does the trailer itself weigh,
2) where you have additional weight, personal items, placed in your R-25, fore or aft,
3) how full your holding tanks are, of liquid, and where they're located in the R-25, depending on fullness,
That said, I recall calculating on 750 lbs tongue weight, dry weight, when trailering my R-25.
I concur that it's "less than 1000 lbs."
Another thought, it's not just the tongue weight, but the the total load pulled, or stopped, by the tongue and ball, when in motion.
I remember my tongue and ball were rated for pulling 13,000 lbs, which is a slightly different issue than the weight downwards on the tongue when parked and at rest.
Charles

 

[commander bill]

Walldog's limp is pretty safe. With a steel float-on type trailer, fuel, water and the usual junk onboard the trailer/boat combo is pushing 9000-10000 pounds. General rule is to trim a trailer with about 10% total weight on tongue. In case many have not noticed most Class III hitchs are rated below this. I had to get a Class IV hitch good for 1500 pounds or so if my memory is good.

 

[walldog]

Yes Bill, you are right most common ball mounts are rated for 5-6000 lbs. I had to get a class IV @ 16K to more closely match my truck which is rated at just under 16K to pull the 27. Here is what I bought: http://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/etr ... K2416.html On paper the 27 and trailer should be less than 9K, but in practice with all liquids and gear, it will probably be nearer to 11K. No way to always be totally empty when towing, what with winter clothes, summer clothes, winter shoes, summer shoes, hair dryers, computers, IPADs, water, soft drinks, wine, booze, etc. By the way have you checked out the weight of a makeup kit lately? :lol:

 

[RProffer]

I had to get a second trailer for the makeup kit :lol:

 

[Levitation]

Mine was weighed on the new trailer by the trailer company with a full fuel tank, about a third full in the blackwater tank, and minimal fresh water... Limited cruising gear was on board... The tongue was 975 pounds...

 

[steveandtina]

MANY THANKS TO ALL WHO REPLIED. NEXT FRIDAY THE BEE HEADS SOUTH PORT ISABEL.. FROM THERE WE WILL CRUISE NORTH ON THE ICW TO PORT ARANSAS [HOPEFULLY WITH HERB AND FAMILY ON THIER 21] I HAD A SLOW LEAK IN ONE OF MY TIRES SO I TOOK IT TO BE FIXED [TRAILER, THAT IS] AND FOUND THAT THE BEAD ON THE INSIDE WAS SERIOUSLY DETIORATING--- SO REMEMBERIN G SOME LONG AGO POSTS FROM , I THINK, CAPT D REGARDING REPLACING ALL 4 OF HIS TIRES ON THE ROAD,,,DECIDED TO REPACE ALL OF MINE HERE IN AUBURN BEFORE DEPARTURE. WILL COST ME ABOUT 500 AND CHANGE BUT NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT CHANGING A FLAT ON I-10 WITH SEMI'S GOING BY AT 65MPH WILL BE WELL WORTH IT.. AFTER OUR TIME IN TEXAS TINA WILL FLY HOME AND I WILL TRAILER TO APALCHICOLA , FLA AND THEN WE WILL SPEND ABOUT A MONTH EXPLORING THE COAST SOUTH TO MAYBE AS FAR AS KEY WEST... THEN I'LL TRAILER BACK TO CA IN PREPERATION FOR SEPT AT LAKE POWELL 😀 MAYBE HERB CAN SHOW ME HOW TO POST PICTURES AND WE CAN KEEP ALL OF OUR PNW FAMILY INFORMED :lol: I DIGRESS--THE MANAGER OF THE TIRE STORE INFORMED ME THAT TRAILER TIRES RARELY WEAR OUT--THEY JUST FALL APART.. ALTHOUGH MINE LOOKED JUST FINE THEY WERE AT LEAST 5 YEARS OLD AND I'M SURE HAD SOME FLAT SPOTS FROM SITTING WITH THE BEE ON THE TRAILER FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME... OF ALL THE THINGS ONE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN PULLING A 5 TON BOAT BLOWOUTS SHOULDN'T BE ONE OF THEM!!! NEXT POST FROM SOMEWHERE ON THE ROAD,,,, STEVEANDTINA 😀

 

[wefings]

Steve, we will look forward to seeing you here in Apalach . There are dozens of oysters and many Lbs of shrimp and grouper waiting for you . As far as Trailer Jacks go , they are less reliable and more poorly made every year [many are from China] so I would double the capacity you need . They like to bend,strip gears,etc. and don't respond well to side loading .So working one at the limit if its rating is not a good idea. Breaking a jack is inconvenient and it does happen ,so I always carry a bottle jack and blocks in case I need to get the boat on or off the hitch with a broken jack .
Marc

 

[Levitation]

I find I need two bottle jacks (with blocks, etc.) to safely lift one side to remove a wheel... I tried it with one jack - here in the workshop, flat cement floor, no semis, etc. music playing and fresh coffee in hand and it was too perilous for this boy with one jack...

 

[RProffer]

If you have two or more axles on your trailer, try one of these. They are safer and easier than bottle jacks.
http://www.traileraid.com/

 

[thataway]

As for the tongue jacks--consider the real heavy duty without a wheel--they are much stronger and work fine. You will not be pushing that boat around by hand anyway.

Jacks: I carry two hyraulic bottle jacks, and a floor jacK (can use a sissor jack) if necessary. Also several blocks including 2 x 8, 4 x 4 etc. For any boat trailer. Also a breaker bar for the lug nuts--and complete set of wheel bearings and back up parts for the brakes.