Use of Ferry boats in Europe -- watch out for this one

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My wife left for England last Friday and on Sunday she travelled to the Isle of Man (IoM) via Ferry boat leaving from Liverpool.

Prior to her leaving last Friday I setup a $30/month 120 MB International Global Data feature that would allow her to Email and use Apple's iMessage for communicating with me and family in USA. I had checked with AT&T who is our Cellular provider and told them of my wife's travel arrangement and the need to take a Ferry boat across the Irish sea to the IoM and they assured me that England and IoM were AT&T negotiated coverage areas and that the Global Data feature assigned to my wife's iPhone would do the trick.

So, today I receive this alarming/urgent AT&T Alert Email saying my wife's iPhone had incurred $200 in International charges..... Woweee, what the heck.

I promptly called AT&T International help line and they looked into it for me. Their data is quite revealing as they could actually track where my wife had been... 😱 They claimed that my wife had indeed travelled to the IoM but she also had left the IoM and gone to the English Channel Island of Guernsey (just off the coast of France). I said this wasn't possible as I had called her and she had remained in the IoM since Sunday.

This was a mystery to me for a while until I completed some research. It happens that when my wife was on the Ferry boat from Liverpool to IoM she used her iPhone. This boat was classified as a Cruise Liner and beamed its internet traffic via Guernsey. This is how AT&T had concluded my wife had travelled to Guernsey (a bad conclusion on their part, but understandable). Guernsey is unfortunately NOT a negotiated AT&T coverage area and hence the $200 for some 29 MB of data use my wife must have consumed while on the Ferry boat (Cruise Liner :lol: ) to the IoM.

As I had plainly told AT&T in advance that my wife would travel to England and then travel by Ferry boat to IoM and stay there for some 5 days before returning via Ferry boat back to England for a further 2 weeks with family I feel I'm entitled to dispute the $200 charge. When talking with AT&T before setting up the Global Data feature for my wife's iPhone they assured me she would be using her $30/month Data plan allotment throughout her trip without issues.

BTW... my daughter is also with my wife and she setup a similar Global Data plane for her iPhone before leaving for England but she had a 800 MB plan. She also received an AT&T Alert Email saying she had International charges that were exceeding $500. 😱

This is a real problem when AT&T International help line person say to you all is OK and then you find out that there's more to it than they tell you.

We have lodged a complaint with AT&T and it has been recorded to our AT&T accounts so we can dispute the charges as being totally out of line considering our due diligence prior to the travel overseas. The AT&T tech help person indicate we have a good chance for having the $700 waived.

So, be careful and be warned when you use your iPhone on a Ferry boat in Europe. Check where the Ferry boat beams its Internet data streams. I assume the Ferry boats employ satellite communication for transferring Internet data back and forth, and I bet they may get some kind of kick back payments. Finding out what the Ferry boat has or is using for accessing the Internet is not that easy to uncover. In my case I knew someone who worked for the Ferry boat service between Liverpool and the IoM and that is how I found out the Guernsey connection. 😉
 
perhaps I'm the site's only troglodite...but...unless there's an app that allows passengers to drive the boat with their smartphones, why even turn it on?

Famous Internet Quote....
"There is no single thing more able to to make one miserable than being at the office, whilst up to one's ass in alligators, and then recieving a text or e-mail (with photos yet) from a friend on vacation."
-- Abraham Lincoln
 
knotflying":1lv5hjre said:
Or you may want to find out who the boyfriend is in Guernsey!

:lol: Oh yes... this did cross my mind as well as the AT&T International Tech Help person's as we both touched on this possibility and joked about it. :lol:

But then you should know there's an Apple feature called "Find My Phone" that allows one to find out where a particular iPhone is located so long as you know some personal info associated with the person that owns the iPhone, and of course the iPhone is powered ON.

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So you see I can track my wife's iPhone as can AT&T... and she's still in the IoM assuming she has her iPhone with her. :lol:

The same feature is available for finding Apple iPad locations -- GPS technology abounds.... 😉

Then of course I do have daughter #1 alongside keeping an eye on things.
 
So if you leave your phone at the hotel you can easily travel without being tracked down :lol:
 
mspaugy":3tce530f said:
So if you leave your phone at the hotel you can easily travel without being tracked down :lol:

True... but one could simply power OFF the phone and travel with anonymity as well.
 
We have gotten international charges when at anchor in the good ol' USA. Prevost Harbor is on Stuart Island - about 4 miles from the Canadian South Pender Island. Seems that the data signal is much stronger from Canada than the US in that location... and no indication on the Mifi card we were using at the time... until the BIG bill came in. We disputed that with Verizon and they took the charges off our bill.

While driving the whale watch boat, we were frequently in and near Canada. We always made it a point to tell guests to put their phone on airplane mode to keep from getting a "surprise."

We are currently traveling in Canada, with our phones turned OFF. We do carry a cheap "pay as you go" phone for use up here.

What we in the US think of as international doesn't always apply to the phone companies. 😉

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
Jim that is very smart, buy a cheap pay as you go phone in the country you are traveling in, no surprises that way....
 
When I go to Fort Rosecrans above Mission Bay in San Diego, my Verizon phone asks to connect to Mexico for phone service, and then asks again to connect to Mexico for text service. I always say no. Fort Rosecrans is on a hill at several hundred feet elevation. I only get the message at elevation - not at sea level. I am glad it did not automatically connect to Mexico.
 
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