Scotty Mounting Plate

[R23 Kingfisher]

I have a 2019 R23 equiped with Scotty plates and plugs, one on each gunwale. Looking at the underside of the gunwale, it doesn't appear that a backing plate was used. Was the gunwale reinforced at this location or should I consider removing it and installing a backing plate? I intend to use one of these with a line puller for crabbing. I guess I am curious if anyone has experienced any signs of fatigue or cracking at these locations after extended use? Seems like a shortfall on the part of the installer not to use backing plates.

 

[Pandion]

I have a 2019 R23 equiped with Scotty plates and plugs, one on each gunwale. Looking at the underside of the gunwale, it doesn't appear that a backing plate was used. Was the gunwale reinforced at this location or should I consider removing it and installing a backing plate? I intend to use one of these with a line puller for crabbing. I guess I am curious if anyone has experienced any signs of fatigue or cracking at these locations after extended use? Seems like a shortfall on the part of the installer not to use backing plates.

We have a '21 R27OB. We've had Scotty HP downriggers mounted on the factory pads since the boat was new and we have not experienced any issue with the factory pad installation. I don't recall how those pads are mounted but they should at least be through-bolted with fender washers under the nuts.

We use 15# balls and extend the downrigger arms to 60", so there's a significant a lever-arm effect. We had one instance where we got hung up on a derelict commercial crab pot that put a tremendous strain on the downrigger and mount but no damage. I would not have an issue pulling recreational pots from one of those pads with a puller like a Scotty or an Ace.

 

[R23 Kingfisher]

Thanks P, that is reassuring. Being an old sailor I was taught all deck hardware should be back plated. I'm gonna use it as is. One can only hope the pots will be so full I wished I had backplated it

 

[Rocky Lou]

If you use an Ace Line Hauler like I do, it's not supported by Scotty. Here's what they said, "
Unfortunately our mounts are NOT designed for ace line haulers and WILL BREAK the swivel all the time and Voids any warranty

You will need a njord All Aluminum swivel for that unit
https://www.harbourchandler.ca/products/njord-swivel-mount?_pos=2&_psq=njord&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Even if you put a metal plate on our swivel the next part that will break is the housing

I recommend not using a swivel and just mount the tilt up bracket directly to your boat (Even our 1023 tilt up bracket will break eventually from the extreme leverage from the ace."

I still use mine on a swivel, however, I also use the Ace Custom 2 Hole Aluminum Billet Mount and I don't crab with heavy pots, only Promar 12 lbs. (Once commercial season opens, I buy live crab...it's cheaper).

 

[Pandion]

If you use an Ace Line Hauler like I do, it's not supported by Scotty.

Good catch! I hadn't considered mounting an Ace to the swivel pedestal, I was thinking more of someone attaching it to a flat mount directly on the pad.

My downriggers are permanently attached to my pedestals and pads. My Ace puller mounts in a Burnewiin socket but I'm still using the plastic Scotty 1032 bracket...I may need to rethink that. Thanks for the heads-up!

 

[Submariner]

If you can figure a way to mount a davit and secure it to the boat, I highly recommend it. The R27-OB has a natural spot that was practically made for a davit to hold a pot puller. There are adapters to mount to the top of a scotty downriver pad for an upper brace, and anchor the bottom to the deck.

There's some illustrations for alternative mounting to the gunwales here: https://www.qualityproductsnw.com/support/installation/

 

[AJCallan]

If you can figure a way to mount a davit and secure it to the boat, I highly recommend it. The R27-OB has a natural spot that was practically made for a davit to hold a pot puller. There are adapters to mount to the top of a scotty downriver pad for an upper brace, and anchor the bottom to the deck.

There's some illustrations for alternative mounting to the gunwales here: https://www.qualityproductsnw.com/support/installation/

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Hello,
II’m looking at an old post & picture of your pot puller. It looks like it goes right through the gunnel, and I suspect, through the two shelves below it and anchored to the deck in the cockpit. I have a similar pot puller (Discovery Bay) that I had on a previous boat that I want to put on my 2019 R27. Do you have any insights on how you installed it on Channel Surfing? Any challenges encountered or things you would do differently? Any pictures would be great.
Thank you,
AJ
Ku’oko’a

 

[Submariner]

Hello,
II’m looking at an old post & picture of your pot puller. It looks like it goes right through the gunnel, and I suspect, through the two shelves below it and anchored to the deck in the cockpit. I have a similar pot puller (Discovery Bay) that I had on a previous boat that I want to put on my 2019 R27. Do you have any insights on how you installed it on Channel Surfing? Any challenges encountered or things you would do differently? Any pictures would be great.
Thank you,
AJ
Ku’oko’a

Here's some additional photos that illustrate the installation. The box contains a solenoid and an air operated foot switch. @AJCallan

What's not shown in the photo, on the very bottom, I drilled a 3/8" hole through the base and through the bottom of the davit. Then rotate the davit 90 degrees and drilll another hole through the bottom of the davit. I have a pin that locks the davit in place. It's either locked into position, hanging off the side of the boat, or it it's locked in position with it stowed, not hanging over the side of the boat.

 

[AJCallan]

Here's some additional photos that illustrate the installation. The box contains a solenoid and an air operated foot switch. @AJCallan

What's not shown in the photo, on the very bottom, I drilled a 3/8" hole through the base and through the bottom of the davit. Then rotate the davit 90 degrees and drilll another hole through the bottom of the davit. I have a pin that locks the davit in place. It's either locked into position, hanging off the side of the boat, or it it's locked in position with it stowed, not hanging over the side of the boat.

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Thank you so much for the photos.

Here's some additional photos that illustrate the installation. The box contains a solenoid and an air operated foot switch. @AJCallan

What's not shown in the photo, on the very bottom, I drilled a 3/8" hole through the base and through the bottom of the davit. Then rotate the davit 90 degrees and drilll another hole through the bottom of the davit. I have a pin that locks the davit in place. It's either locked into position, hanging off the side of the boat, or it it's locked in position with it stowed, not hanging over the side of the boat.

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Thank you for the photos!

Here's some additional photos that illustrate the installation. The box contains a solenoid and an air operated foot switch. @AJCallan

What's not shown in the photo, on the very bottom, I drilled a 3/8" hole through the base and through the bottom of the davit. Then rotate the davit 90 degrees and drilll another hole through the bottom of the davit. I have a pin that locks the davit in place. It's either locked into position, hanging off the side of the boat, or it it's locked in position with it stowed, not hanging over the side of the boat.

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Thanks for the photos! It’s pretty much as I envisioned.
AJ