Stiff steering R-25

DennisL

DennisL

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Location
Seattle
Fluid Motion Model
R-25 (Outboard)
Vessel Name
Nancy Ann
I have a 2024 Ranger 25 with about 150 hours on it about a month ago. I overrode my auto pilot and steered while it was engaged. It took a little troubleshooting to figure out how to reset the system, but I was able to do it ever since then my steering has felt a little bit stiff and now when I turn the wheel at the helm at low speeds, it makes a little bit of a rubbing noise like it needs to be lubricated. Does anyone have any tips on solutions? Wondering how you perform the most basic service on the wheel via the little screw cap at the top of the steering column. Any help folks can offer would be greatly appreciated or directing me to other threads that might have good info. Thank you!!
 
DennisL said:
I have a 2024 Ranger 25 with about 150 hours on it about a month ago. I overrode my auto pilot and steered while it was engaged. It took a little troubleshooting to figure out how to reset the system, but I was able to do it ever since then my steering has felt a little bit stiff and now when I turn the wheel at the helm at low speeds, it makes a little bit of a rubbing noise like it needs to be lubricated. Does anyone have any tips on solutions? Wondering how you perform the most basic service on the wheel via the little screw cap at the top of the steering column. Any help folks can offer would be greatly appreciated or directing me to other threads that might have good info. Thank you!!
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On ours we unplugged the autopilot and it stopped and the same kind of thing was happening to us so maybe try that
 
Captain Of Eloise said:
On ours we unplugged the autopilot and it stopped and the same kind of thing was happening to us so maybe try that
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I’ll try that and see! I assume you mean you unplugged and then plugged it back in?
 
DennisL said:
I’ll try that and see! I assume you mean you unplugged and then plugged it back in?
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Nope we called garmin and they said to unplug it and don’t plug it back in until we put it in storage at the end of the season and can get it serviced
 
Ah ok. Well shoot. I’m about to take a trip to the San Juan’s and I leave the boat in the water 365. I’ll have to dig a layer deeper. Thank you!
 
There also might be shutoff valves on the hydraulic lines to the autopilot and if there is shut them off to isolate it but there might not be cause our boat was not installed with them
 
Also I forgot to add if you put anything with magnets on the console it might interfere and cause what’s happening(for example a phone)
 
DennisL said:
I have a 2024 Ranger 25 with about 150 hours on it about a month ago. I overrode my auto pilot and steered while it was engaged. It took a little troubleshooting to figure out how to reset the system, but I was able to do it ever since then my steering has felt a little bit stiff and now when I turn the wheel at the helm at low speeds, it makes a little bit of a rubbing noise like it needs to be lubricated. Does anyone have any tips on solutions? Wondering how you perform the most basic service on the wheel via the little screw cap at the top of the steering column. Any help folks can offer would be greatly appreciated or directing me to other threads that might have good info. Thank you!!
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By your description, it sounds like you have a hydraulic steering system. Can you give some further detail on what you mean by "I overrode my autopilot and steered while it was engaged" and "reset the system"?

If you're using a factory Garmin autopilot system, it's likely you have Garmin's Shadow Drive capability installed that is designed to allow you to steer the vessel and make course corrections while the autopilot is engaged. Occasionally while doing this, you can come up against a "hydraulic lock" in the wheel, but backing off the pressure by turning the wheel the other direction has always immediately cleared that on our boat.

If you unscrew the cap that's behind your steering wheel and look the hydraulic reservoir, hydraulic fluid should be covering the "gears" inside. If you can see anything other than fluid in there, add the proper hydraulic fluid until it covers the gear. A bit of low fluid can cause the wheel to feel kind of "notchy" when it's turned. If you do have low fluid, you'd need to determine if you have a leak. If there is already a significant amount of air in your system, it will need to be bled. I've never done it, but I've read that it's an involved process to do it right.
 
Pandion said:
By your description, it sounds like you have a hydraulic steering system. Can you give some further detail on what you mean by "I overrode my autopilot and steered while it was engaged" and "reset the system"?

If you're using a factory Garmin autopilot system, it's likely you have Garmin's Shadow Drive capability installed that is designed to allow you to steer the vessel and make course corrections while the autopilot is engaged. Occasionally while doing this, you can come up against a "hydraulic lock" in the wheel, but backing off the pressure by turning the wheel the other direction has always immediately cleared that on our boat.

If you unscrew the cap that's behind your steering wheel and look the hydraulic reservoir, hydraulic fluid should be covering the "gears" inside. If you can see anything other than fluid in there, add the proper hydraulic fluid until it covers the gear. A bit of low fluid can cause the wheel to feel kind of "notchy" when it's turned. If you do have low fluid, you'd need to determine if you have a leak. If there is already a significant amount of air in your system, it will need to be bled. I've never done it, but I've read that it's an involved process to do it right.
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Thanks for this! I do have the shadowdrive feature. I just needed to reset the system after I used it. I believe that it’s supposed to reset itself after you engage the shadow drive but I had to do this strange process where I steered all the way in one direction then in the other and when I straightened back out it had recalibrated and everything was back to working per usual. To be honest that incident and my steering may be unrelated, that’s just the last steering related issue I can think of that might have played a role. I will open the cap and check later this week when I’m back to the boat and report back! Thank you very much for the thoughtful response!
 
I turned off the "Shadow Drive" feature on my boat. I haven't had any trouble since. Up until then, I too was experiencing the locked up steering scenario.
 
DennisL said:
I have a 2024 Ranger 25 with about 150 hours on it about a month ago. I overrode my auto pilot and steered while it was engaged. It took a little troubleshooting to figure out how to reset the system, but I was able to do it ever since then my steering has felt a little bit stiff and now when I turn the wheel at the helm at low speeds, it makes a little bit of a rubbing noise like it needs to be lubricated. Does anyone have any tips on solutions? Wondering how you perform the most basic service on the wheel via the little screw cap at the top of the steering column. Any help folks can offer would be greatly appreciated or directing me to other threads that might have good info. Thank you!!
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I agree with Pandion: "If you unscrew the cap that's behind your steering wheel and look the hydraulic reservoir, hydraulic fluid should be covering the "gears" inside. If you can see anything other than fluid in there, add the proper hydraulic fluid until it covers the gear. A bit of low fluid can cause the wheel to feel kind of "notchy" when it's turned. If you do have low fluid, you'd need to determine if you have a leak. If there is already a significant amount of air in your system, it will need to be bled. I've never done it, but I've read that it's an involved process to do it right." Bleeding the system is not difficult.
 
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