27OB inverter ??

[ixlr8]

Hi, I have a RT-27OB and I am trying to get 110vac from the inverter. I have turned on every breaker I can find that is labeled 'INVERTER', but I don't see any indication of having 110vac. At the moment I have no idea where on the boat the inverter is located, I haven't been able to find it. I am guessing there is a breaker on the inverter itself that may be off. Any help locating the inverter, or solving this problem, would be appreciated.

 

[CaspersCruiser]

My Classic R27 is a generation older than your boat, but this is the inverter procedure on my boat:

1) Turn off all switches on the A/C Distribution Panel

2) Turn on inverter with the switch located on the bulkhead directly under helm seat

3) Look at the rotary switch located next to the A/C Distribution Panel and see if the green light next to the “Inverter” label is illuminated. If it’s not, stop right there and find out why the inverter is not providing A/C.

4) If the green light is illuminated, turn the rotary switch to the “Inverter” position

5) On the A/C Distribution Panel, turn on the “A/C Main” breaker and then below that, turn on the A/C circuits you want the inverter to power. Bend down and be sure what switches you are throwing. Don’t inadvertently turn on the water heater or battery charger. Because of its watt output limitations, pretty much the only A/C items that should be powered by the inverter are the port & starboard outlets and the microwave.

 

[ixlr8]

I have turned on all breakers that I can find that are associated with the inverter. The green light you mentioned is not coming on. I have no idea where the inverter actually is in the boat to see if there is a breaker on it that is off. Via email my dealer told me that there is a good chance the breaker on the inverter is off... but I have no idea where the inverter is located.

 

[chronicity]

There a little black rocker near the breaker panel. Says Kisae i think. Hold it for a couple seconds.

 

[ixlr8]

There a little black rocker near the breaker panel. Says Kisae i think. Hold it for a couple seconds.

Thank you!! That did it. I held the rocker over for about 5 sec, I heard a click and the light on that panel came on. A few seconds later the AC power display came on and it seems to be working. Thank you.

I hope when the manual finally comes out that it will contain info like this, and the locations of the major components, like the inverter.

 

[chronicity]

I had this explained to me during the factory delivery, but it still took me a couple minutes to put it together on my own. You turn it back off the same way.

 

[Matty]

Great information. I was told on delivery that it looked like I was wired for an inverter but did not have one. So if I wanted a cup of coffee while cruising I had to fire up the generator. expensive coffee! I was going to buy a small inverter.

then I read steps below and inverter turned on , coffee maker came on and lot's of questions resolved.

Easy way to put together the manuals would be to gleam info from this site.

thanks for the detailed info.

 

[knotflying]

Interesting how a boat can be built, but a decent manual is near impossible to put together. :roll: A binder having an assembly of the component manuals and a wiring diagram with wire color code correlating to item being powered with fuse locations would be nice.

 

[Matty]

In my bag of brochures I did find laminated circuit breaker diagrams and all the wires on the boat have labels. Have to say they did a good job in that area. Perhaps that is something newer that they started doing more recently. As i understand it they have hired someone to put together the manuals. I would hope they look on this site for common issues to include in the manual.

My orientation was short due to how late in the day the boat was delivered so I do rely on this site a lot. And the folks at RT have always been helpful. But they may want to think about how many phone calls and emails they might avoid by incorporating some of this in a manual. I would imagine 75% of the info is generally the same no matter which model you have especially if boat model is within last 5 years.

 

[baz]

Interesting how a boat can be built, but a decent manual is near impossible to put together. :roll: A binder having an assembly of the component manuals and a wiring diagram with wire color code correlating to item being powered with fuse locations would be nice.

I must say, the lack of a RT created User's Operating Manual was the most disappointing aspect when I received my R27-OB. This was unlike when having a new R-25 Classic delivered which did come with a User's Operations Manual in 2009.

I've yet to operate my Inverter and quite likely have forgotten what was told to me by RT's Tim Bates on Day-1 on how to operate it, so this posting will be filed away for future use. 🙂 Thank you.

 

[Cutwater28GG]

Based on the other thread with the owner not getting 110volts from shorepower, and many different boats exhibiting different behavior depending on the wiring and inverter installed, I dont know how the factory could build a manual. every boat seems to be slightly different. They would have to build a manual for every boat, or lock down the production process which may be impossible with the long list of suppliers over the years

 

[BB marine]

Based on the other thread with the owner not getting 110volts from shorepower, and many different boats exhibiting different behavior depending on the wiring and inverter installed, I dont know how the factory could build a manual. every boat seems to be slightly different. They would have to build a manual for every boat, or lock down the production process which may be impossible with the long list of suppliers over the years

Many manufactures do it. A manual for each model. Ranger 21,23,25,27,27outboard,29,31
Cutwater 24,26,28,30,

Not a lot of models! Many have the same equipment. The C26 and C28 are almost completely repetitive and have a owners manual, The R25 and 27 are almost completely repetitive and have a owners manual. Most manufactures make a manual for all models,if changes are made they insert a revision in the the back of the manual and state which model year it refers to.

Dealers should be doing a better job delivering the boats. If a dealer says the boat is wired for an inverter and say's it doesn't have one and it does!!! A proper pre-delivery inspection was never done and any issues that should have been caught by the dealer are passed on to the owner. Not a good way of delivering a boat. Fluff and buff deliveries!!! This puts a lot of strain on the factory Reps and leaves a Negative attitude to the owner. Not a good way of doing business. Dealers come and go but this can change the reputation of the manufacturer. Ranger and Cutwater have a good reputation I hope they keep it.

 

[Cutwater28GG]

I agree there is some room for improvement. my point was there are a lot of deltas between boats in the same model line up depending when it was built.

my cutwater doesnt have for instance a breaker for the fridge. I get 110 from the sockets with the inverter off or on. these changes are a result of improvements in newer versions of the Cutwater 28.

I have a manual for the 28 but this level of detail is not in the manual.

I think the factory attempts to get around some of these deltas and associated challenges by offering (for a $2500 charge) the delivery experience which helps owners get to learn the boat with the experts in person. Bellingham yachts basically did a shortened version for me for free when I bought the boat and its where I picked up a lot of tips for using the boat that are somewhat unique to my boat.

 

[ixlr8]

In my bag of brochures I did find laminated circuit breaker diagrams and all the wires on the boat have labels. Have to say they did a good job in that area. Perhaps that is something newer that they started doing more recently. As i understand it they have hired someone to put together the manuals. I would hope they look on this site for common issues to include in the manual.

My orientation was short due to how late in the day the boat was delivered so I do rely on this site a lot. And the folks at RT have always been helpful. But they may want to think about how many phone calls and emails they might avoid by incorporating some of this in a manual. I would imagine 75% of the info is generally the same no matter which model you have especially if boat model is within last 5 years.

There was laminated circuit breaker diagrams with my boat manuals as well. But I have found not all wires are labeled. None of my batteries, or their wiring, are labeled. My orientation was almost 4 hrs long, including sea trial, and I missed LOTS of stuff. Thankfully this site, and the wealth of knowledge that comes with it, is available to answer questions that the dealers don't/can't.

 

[baz]

Hopefully all R27-OB owners are aware of the fuse blocks behind and inside of the small 6" square cubby hole panel below the main electrical panel and slightly over to port side on the rear cave bulkhead. Of importance are the two fuses for the Webasto furnace; vertically aligned with the lower one (at least on my boat) to close to the one above making it impossible to extract the lower fuse without loosening its screw attachment and swiveling/rotating it sideways.

The backlit left side console switches are not fused and are always ON (red) unless battery(ies) disconnected.

I'm looking forward to having my RT27-OB User's Manual in my hot little hands. :lol:

In the meantime I'm going to Alaska the easy way by taking a 2-week cruise on the Alaska Marine Highway Ferry boat from Fairhaven/Bellingham to/from Kodiak Island or may even goto Dutch Harbor. This is not a BIG hotel-like cruise-line boat and is a bit spartan with limited facilities and basic cabins (some even camp out on deck with tents). It's also very cost effective and for $40 I can take my Wire Hair Fox Terrier friend with me. 😀

 

[ixlr8]

I'm looking forward to having my RT27-OB User's Manual in my hot little hands. :lol:

In the meantime I'm going to Alaska the easy way by taking a 2-week cruise on the Alaska Marine Highway Ferry boat from Fairhaven/Bellingham to/from Kodiak Island or may even goto Dutch Harbor. This is not a BIG hotel-like cruise-line boat and is a bit spartan with limited facilities and basic cabins (some even camp out on deck with tents). It's also very cost effective and for $40 I can take my Wire Hair Fox Terrier friend with me. 😀

Barry,
I too am eagerly awaiting the 27-OB manual. In the meantime... I hope you enjoy your Alaska trip.

 

[Bruce Moore]

In the meantime I'm going to Alaska the easy way by taking a 2-week cruise on the Alaska Marine Highway Ferry boat from Fairhaven/Bellingham to/from Kodiak Island or may even goto Dutch Harbor. 😀

Bon voyage.