Air Conditioning use with out generator?

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I am in the process of purchasing a 2022 R-27OB Luxury addition, but no mention of a generator included. There is some language that suggests the Lithium Ion batteries + an invertor is all that is needed to run the AC away from shore power, but i need further explanation. Is this set up (with solar) genuinely capable of running the AC indefinitely?
 
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I am in the process of purchasing a 2022 R-27OB Luxury addition, but no mention of a generator included. There is some language that suggests the Lithium Ion batteries + an invertor is all that is needed to run the AC away from shore power, but i need further explanation. Is this set up (with solar) genuinely capable of running the AC indefinitely?
The factory set up of 600ah of lithium iron phosphate batteries and 160 watt solar panel will not provide indefinite AC.


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If you search you should see more posts on that topic. I seem to recall that you can get one night out of the batteries. Even a small air conditioner consumes a lot of power.
 
I have a 2022 R-27 LE that I took delivery of in May. It has six Dakota Lithium 12V 100AH batteries in parallel for a total of 600AH of house battery capacity. It has the Balmar battery monitor and a CMP21190PK solar panel. I think this is a 190W panel, so maybe the LE has a different panel than the NW edition. I think the inverter is 3000W on the LE.

So far I have been on one overnight cruise where I was away from shore power on a mooring. I used the AC for about an hour in the evening to cool the boat down before going to bed. The Balmar showed around 100A drain with the AC on and the solar panel still putting out a few amps. By the time I left the mooring the next morning, the Balmar showed about 75% SOC (State of Charge). This also includes some use of the water heater, microwave, and coffee maker. After a 1 hour run home, the battery was not fully recharged, but it quickly reached full charge after connecting shore power.

So, you definitely can run the AC from the inverter on the LE, but certainly not indefinitely. Probably only 5 to 6 hours run time maximum with no other loads. A multi-day cruise away from shore power is possible, but you would need to limit AC usage and recharge during the day with solar and engine power.

I have seen reports of some owners getting a second solar panel from the factory, so maybe ask your dealer about this. It won't give you unlimited run time, but it will help some.
 
Thank you for your responses. One night out may be sufficient, but a second solar panel may be in my future.
 
We've just returned from completing the Florida loop and Bimini, and ran the A/C non stop for 13 days. While I can't quote you specific details on wattage and output, and the technical specifications of the solar panels and electrical system; I can provide some anecdotal Information. We are based in SW Florida, where the average daily temp in summer is in the high 80's-low 90's,with about 85% RH. Our longest run was 115 miles to Marathon Key on a bright sunny day, which took 5 1/2 hours at an average speed of 21mph due to sea conditions, We had the autopilot, fusion radio, chart plotter, radar, fridge and a/c all running. I would say that the radio could be considered an extravagance as far as power consumption. The A/c was set to 74deg. which in actuality gave us around 77 deg. and 40% RH in the cabin. By the time we reached Marathon, we were around 40% SOC . The most important thing I learned from this, is that even if you have an unlimited supply of fuel, you will eventually deplete your batteries regardless of the output of the engine. So the outside environmental conditions, length of your trip, and how much day light is remaining, will all effect your results. We were 100% at marinas during this trip, so we had the opportunity to recharge every night. However, if you are in a hot climate, and plan to be on the hook during the summer months, I would absolutely consider a generator. Feel free to PM me for more details on our experience.
 
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