D1-30 Recall...

[sheral]

Sorry if I missed it in reading the PDF for the D1-30 recall.

It doesn’t say anything about the US and / or Canada. Does it include both countries?

Thanks.

 

[Pilotnavigator]

Seems it only covers US motors. Sounds ok until you figure on selling it down the road. I am in Canada too and my previous boat was sold to a sailor in the US. My boat before that was a American boat that I brought into caneda. So as you all know boats are sold back and forth often. And with the dollar difference a Canadian boat is a good deal in the US.
The US market is huge for these boats compared to ours. Our Canadian boats will most likely end up in the US at some point. So does this recall for US only affect resale value of Canadian boats? Will a US buyer demand only "fixed" motors? Will a Canadian boat be allowed to be sold in the US if it has not been corrected for EPA standards?
Your thoughts?

 

[sheral]

All good points. I am going to call Volvo/Penta in Vancouver this week and hopefully get more details...

 

[sheral]

This is Andrew’s last post on the subject so wondering if it includes ‘all’ D1-30’s - Canada too...

If I am not mistaken, every Ranger Tug R21EC with a D1 installed will qualify for the recall. Volvo has communicated with all of their dealers about this so they will be prepared to help. In the short of it all, there is no rush to take away from the summer cruising or ruin any trips you might have planned. They give you plenty of time to work with a dealer to order the engine and get it installed. Your new engine will come with a brand new warranty and the option to purchase extended coverage! Any questions, you should direct them to the dealer you purchased the boat from.

Please look at the factory technical bulletins for the PDF I am going to attach that Volvo wrote for Ranger owners that should answer all of your questions.

Thank you!

 

[sheral]

Tim Bates from Ranger advised me the recall campaign is for D1-30’s registered in the US only.

 

[sheral]

Seems it only covers US motors. Sounds ok until you figure on selling it down the road. I am in Canada too and my previous boat was sold to a sailor in the US. My boat before that was a American boat that I brought into caneda. So as you all know boats are sold back and forth often. And with the dollar difference a Canadian boat is a good deal in the US.
The US market is huge for these boats compared to ours. Our Canadian boats will most likely end up in the US at some point. So does this recall for US only affect resale value of Canadian boats? Will a US buyer demand only "fixed" motors? Will a Canadian boat be allowed to be sold in the US if it has not been corrected for EPA standards?
Your thoughts?

Thinking about this more, unless the US has an emissions testing program in place for boat engines, they would never test an engine purchased outside of the country. Especially on a used boat. Am I wrong?

 

[Pilotnavigator]

Unless they put a new EPA sticker on the engine and it becomes generally known that there are two versions in boats. One that meets EPA and one that does not. Any differentiating feature affects resale. And besides if no one tests boats why make the recall. Just adjust the production for new ones.
I am surprised that Canada does not have the same specs as the USA . They will likely have in the near future. Given all the attention put on the diesel cars.

 

[sheral]

Good points. Maybe the Canadian recall is yet to come...

Anytime you improve the level of emissions on an engine, something likely has been added, such as sensors, and/or ways to trap/burn exhaust or maybe even detuning the engine further. Any idea what Volvo did to the newest version?

 

[rayzickrick]

Sheral, http://www.volspec.co.uk/engines/Marine ... ATier3.pdf

The latest and greatest D1-30. Now I just need to find a VP deal who works on diesels. All that I have contacted so far only work on gas VP engines.

 

[Larry H]

I recently imported my used 2014 R-27 from Canada. US customs needed an EPA form completed, with a photo of the emissions sticker that is on the engine. Engines that do not qualify cannot be imported.
They even needed the photo of the emissions sticker for my Yamaha 6hp. (also used)

If I was purchasing another boat from Canada, I would write into the sales contract that the boat must be acceptable to US Customs as to EPA regs.

 

[captstu]

Here in South Florida, Volvos and Janmar ngines are sold by the same a few dealers. When I took my Janmar to the local dealer to have a service Advisor done, they charged me $1000 or so and could not put the engine back together again.

I took it to a second Janmar dealer who did not charge me but spent 10 days working on the engine and could get the oil pressure indicator to work.

Ranger worked with me all the way on my behalf even though it was an older boat that I bought secondhand.

Janmar eventually, with more persuasion from Ranger, told me that if I brought the Engine to Tampa at my expense they would try to fix the problem thei dealer caused when they tryed to install a service advisor.

In the meantime I scanned this bulletin board and found that other people have had the same problem and repaired if I change the wiring harness. Janmar refused to change the wiring harness and refused to sell me one so I can change it At my expense.

I know Ranger switched to Volos and I know that Volvo service is generally superior to Yanmar service. But my problem was with the Yanmar authorized dealer who did the service advisory work. The same set of dealers services Volvo engines as well. Possibly Volvo does a better job of supervising their dealers, I have no way of knowing.

Fortunately I was able to repair the problem but my own. So other than being out the money and about a month of boar about it was the real loss. I did learn more about electronic engines that I had ever hope to know.