Deadrise on the 21EC?

[TomKline]

Andrew,

Do you know the deadrise on the R-21EC? Can you provide a drawing of what the deadrise is at each "station?"

Thank you in advance.

 

[Andrew Custis]

Hello Tom,

I have asked our President for this information. I will reply directly to you when I have a response. Thank you for your pateince.

 

[TomKline]

Andrew,

Any update?

Thanks,

Tom

 

[tuggertoy]

Tom,

The factory could give you the deadrise specs but then they would have to kill you.... it's a trade secret. 😱 😉

Eric

 

[Andrew Custis]

😀 That is one reason why I didn't post it. The president did not answer my question either. I will ask again and see how much he charges for this information 😀

 

[Andrew Custis]

After speaking with John, the R21 is a modified displacement hull which is nearly impossible to figure out the deadrise on. This is not top secret to them but no way really to give you an exact degree. Can I ask why you would need this information?

 

[TomKline]

Andrew,

I am seriously considering buying a 21EC.

I am interested in knowing (from a technical perspective) what to expect from the ride of the boat. Having owned boats before, I understand how important this information is to determine if this boat is "right" for me.

A modified displacement hull can mean many things. I live near the Chesapeake Bay. I have owned boats that were supposed to be right for the Bay. They weren't, even though "the numbers" would indicate otherwise. The marketing literature doesn't tell the story, most of the time. I am looking for real information to make a real decision.

Feel free to email me directly or call me at my office at 757-431-6507.

Many thanks,

Tom

 

[Stella Maris]

Tom,
While we have never owned an R-21, we have owned both an R-25 and currently own a new R-29. Both of these boats have handled any and all waters we have thrown at them. We have tired much sooner than either of these models ever would. I would feel comfortable in purchasing an R-21 and using it on the bay. Again, more than likely you will call it quits before the boat ever thinks about it!

One day I will own an R-21 (hope Jeff nor my wife reads this....). I think they are the coolest things to come along. This was the first Ranger Tug that I ever saw. The marina where I dined in San Diego used one as their "Marina Boat". After seeing her, that was all she wrote....

Good luck, you will enjoy your new toy!

 

[dloop]

Tom, what kind of conditions on the Bay are you considering a 21ec for? I have never been to the Chesapeake bay, but perhaps I can provide a comparison to Puget sound conditions that I have experienced in my 21.

Of course, your best option is to get some time on one yourself. Numbers alone may not be enough to make a decision. As you mentioned above, some boats are not be right for your waters "...even though 'the numbers' would indicate otherwise."

If you ever decide to take a red-eye to Seattle, I'll pick you up at the airport and take you for a ride, promise 🙂

dave

 

[TomKline]

Dave,

The wave period is short and the waves are steep and choppy. Often, the wind is blowing in the opposite direction of the tide, which makes it messy. The Bay is relatively shallow, making for many waves that are packed together.

For example, I owned a 30' Osprey and it beat me to death in the Chesapeake.

Tom

 

[walldog]

Well, I can just about guarantee that the 21EC will not beat you to death. It just won't go fast enough. Especially compared to a 30' Osprey.

Herb Grinning

 

[Andrew Custis]

Hello Tom,

We appreciate your concerns and I think the only way to overcome these is to get on an R21 and experience it for yourself. We have the Baltimore show coming up on January 21-24. Our dealer Chesapeake Ranger Tugs will be at this show. After talking with Mark Mansfield (Ranger Tug East Coast Rep) he says that we could get you out on the water after this, if this interests you. Please feel free to call us at anytime. 253-839-5213. Happy Holidays!

 

[Paradox]

Tom - We have had our 21EC on the Bay numerous times. Over this past 4th of July, the wind was gusting up the Choptank, blowing 4 footers at the confluence of the Choptank and Tred Avon. This was our first 'real' run in our boat, and we were amazed at how we just bobbed over the swells. My previous boat was a 36' GB classic, and we would have had the bow pulpit in the waves on that afternoon.
Taking a beam sea is a bit more of a challenge in this little tug. You have to pay attention.
Slow is the other operand. We have always had trawlers, and we enjoy the the pace. If you need to go beyond 8 knots, this is not a boat for you.
Finally, with a trailer, our 21EC has been from Virginia to Lake Ontario in our first season of ownership. This winter we plan to take her to Marco Island for a week, and then in the spring to Charleston and Hilton Head. It is a great trailerable and comfortable boat. WJC