Do you use your dingy?

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I’m new to boat ownership. Have a dingy with outboard motor on top of my R29. I have a feeling I won’t use it much (I’m mostly in the Chesapeake Bay). And it’s another thing to maintain. Maybe I’ll replace it with a kayak or two. How much do you all use a dingy and what sort of thing do you use it for?


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Having a dinghy was one of the main five reasons we sold our fast i/o cabin cruiser and bought a Ranger Tug.
The primary use for our dinghy is to get from the boat on the hook or at a mooring buoy to shore or to a nearby marina. Also use it to explore an area without having to move the boat. Last year we made about 30 round trips in the dinghy and covered approximately 15-20 miles exploring. IMHO having the dinghy greatly expands the places you can go with the boat as well as adding great experiences while cruising! Not sure if you could do all the things we do with our dinghy (e.g. hauling camping gear back and forth to shore or hauling big loads of groceries and ice back to the boat) with a kayak.
 
I’m with Al. The dinghy is indispensable. We often anchor and it is our only way off the boat. Add hauling laundry to his list of things to carry.

Of course our dinghy is on davits so is easy to launch and retrieve.

Curt
 
We also use our dinghy lots. We like to anchor out as much as we can, and enjoy going to shore for walks or exploring. Also for exploring the bay or cove we anchor in, and to do a bit of fishing, set crab or prawn traps, etc. We have a small Portland Pudgy and Torqeedo electric motor that we keep upright on the swim step davits for easy deployment. We also keep a small plastic kayak on the roof racks for exploring as well.
 
You probably could get away without a dink in the bay as long as you are prepared to pay the docking rates. When we cruised the bay on our sailboat we used our dink in Annapolis (mooring ball), St Michaels (anchored out) and Hospital Point in Portsmouth (anchored out). If you don’t have a dog that needs twice dailey trips ashore, you might be able to live without it. Have you played with your davit system yet? I was wondering how that worked out having the dink on the roof rack and how much it interfered with the solar panel.
 
One more dinghy duty that is essential for many people, including us until very recently when we lost our 17 year old Australian Shepard, is to take the K9 crew member ashore 2 or 3 times a day when on the hook or mooring buoy. While I have seen dogs in kayaks, I am guessing it is a little more sketchy.
 
Another good use for the dinghy is photography. We get lots of great scenery shots taken from the boat, but it's nice to change up the angles sometimes. I like to go out in the dinghy at anchor and get different shots of sunsets/sunrises, the mist rising off the water, the sun through the trees, etc. It's nice to get your own boat in the picture sometimes along with the surrounding scenery. It adds interest to your photo collection.
Not that I would buy and carry a dinghy just to take pictures, but you will find that when you have one handy you will find more ways to use it and get off your boat more often.
And another example comes to mind. During our last trip we spent a couple nights in port waiting out some wind, and met some other boaters who we shared cocktails with. Almost 2 weeks later we were settling into an anchorage for the night when those same new friends came in to anchor in the cove. We hailed them on the radio and jumped in the dinghy to buzz over for a visit. We had a great time together which we would have missed out on had we not had the dinghy handy.
 
Another use for the dinghy, at least in some parts of the country, is to take a stern tie line to shore after anchoring or on some mooring buoys.
 
Of course, one other reason for a dinghy is for using it as a life raft in the event of the boat sinking. :roll: This was the primary reason I bought a Portland Pudgy for my 2010 R-25 (Classic). My requirement was that the dinghy had to be USCG certified for 4 people, was unsinkable and with a Torqeedo electric motor could get me to shoreline that was within 20 miles of where my boat was at time of the emergency. I chose a Portland Pudgy in Senset Yellow so it was easily seen in the gray/white waters. The Torqeedo motor also provided GPS so my position could be conveyed to the USCG when required, although I always have an iCom waterproof/floatable handheld as well.

I thankfully never had to use the Portland Pudgy as an emergency life raft, and rarely used it for other purposes. It's weight was significant at around 200 lbs and being at the extreme aft location on the swim step it had a significant impact on fuel burn. Because of this I would leave it at my slip when going for short cruises on calm days.

Today, I prefer to have an inflatable SeaEagle kayak that holds 3 people easily (well at least two adults and a small child and small dog). It has a load capacity of around 650 lbs. With this I have the option of having it deflated and bagged and stowed easily on swim step or elsewhere, and for the R29 CB it can be left inflated and hung over the side of the upper bridge's port side rails. I have a battery operated inflater/deflater unit can can inflate the kayak in 5 minutes and as much time for deflating it. The SeaEagle Fastrack kayak weighs just under 30 lbs. I also have a small WaterSnake trolling motor that can be attached to the stern of the SeaEagle and powered with a 50 Ah Lithium battery that weighs in at 10 lbs. Total cost for this kayak and motor was just under $2,500 two years ago.

One other benefit for this SeaEagle kayak is that it's portable and can be stowed in a car and taken on trips to anywhere and deployed easily for water sports unrelated to boating, and of course can be left behind at the dock if not required for a boat cruise and requires little room for storage at the dockside.

One other consideration if one were to opt for the RT Dinghy option at time of purchasing a new boat from them is that the dinghy would cost some $5200 and along with a small outboard motor, another $1200. This sums to some $6500 for a decent dinghy. This cost then needs to be acceptable to you for the intended dingy's use.
 
Having cruised both coasts I would say that a dingy on the west coast is much more important than the east coast. Of course your cruising style is important in making the decision on whether to have a dingy or not. If you are cruising and stopping overnight along the way and anchoring out with no dog then you definitely do not need a dingy on the east coast. You can always stop at marinas along the way and get fuel and supplies and do sightseeing at interesting points of interest. We have often traveled with other tug owners who have a dingy and when anchored out together they came over to our boat or took us into shore. Many mooring fields have launches in season and paying to go in and back is also an option. So as always, pick your poison. Since you already have the equipment try it for a while without using it and then decide.
 
YukonRon,

I am interested in the Portland Pudgy as a dingy on my R-27 Classic. Did you install the Weaver Davit mounts yourself, or did you use the factory installed mounting pads for the Weaver mounts? Do you have the stern rails on your swim step?

Do you have any photos of the dingy stored on the swim step?

Thanks
 
Larry H":20h49h35 said:
YukonRon,

I am interested in the Portland Pudgy as a dingy on my R-27 Classic. Did you install the Weaver Davit mounts yourself, or did you use the factory installed mounting pads for the Weaver mounts? Do you have the stern rails on your swim step?

Do you have any photos of the dingy stored on the swim step?

Thanks

Larry: Here's my photo Album for my Portland Pudgy that I installed on my R25 Classic a number of years ago. I used the Davits that we're included with the Pudgy and installed them myself directly onto the swim step. I used a 4:1 block and tackle to raise/lower the ~200 lb Pudgy and always secured it leaning onto the transom rails with a good latched holding strap. It had to be raised to a vertical position when I wished to fuel up and pump out the holding tank.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1AJr1PPdJPjUlD
 
Barry,

Thank you for the photos. I like the looks of the Portland Pudgy, and I have reviewed the online videos.

Do you still have the boat and Torqeedo motor? Was it a useful dingy to carry?

I have a Highfield aluminum bottom RIB with a Yamaha 6hp motor. The boat performs well, and will hit 13 knots with just me aboard. I really don't like the inflatable part and it is not comfortable for me to ride in.
 
Larry:

To be honest I rarely used the Pudgy. My initial requirement for a dinghy was simply to have a sea worthy dinghy to escape with in the event of an emergency within 20 miles of land. In retrospect knowing now how safe the RT models are I would not invest in such a dinghy. Today, I've opted for a decent inflatable kayak that can either be onboard with me and stored inflated or deflated in its bag, or left at home when not needed. The boat's stern view with this 'dinghy solution' is thus relieved from being blocked and this is an important consideration for the RT29 S/CB model with its flip-over transom seat. The kayak is a good alternative for me is it's a cost saver and lessens the burden a weighty dinghy can have on the boat's performance. The Kayak can of course be used for non-boating events as it can be easily stored in a car and driven to some inland lake or river resort.
 
As Chesapeake boaters - We use our dinghy very frequently! We love to anchor out - even just for day trips, and dinghy to restaurants, the beach, or just putt around sightseeing... Waterside bars and restaurants usually have a dinghy dock - and Annapolis has dinghy tie-ups at the end of many streets!. Even when paying for an overnight slip, sometimes the dinghy is useful for getting to places on the "far side" of a harbor... (Think St. Michaels!) We keep the Highfield Aluminum RIB on davits - easy to pull up and drop down with just the rope we use as a tender threaded through one of the far handles. The toughest part is putting on and taking off the 4 HP yamaha - in hindsite, I would opt for either a torqueedo or a 2.5 - the 4 only gets it on a plane in ideal conditions with just one passenger... so a 2.5 would be lighter and easier...
 
As Chesapeake boaters - We use our dinghy very frequently! We love to anchor out - even just for day trips, and dinghy to restaurants, the beach, or just putt around sightseeing... Waterside bars and restaurants usually have a dinghy dock - and Annapolis has dinghy tie-ups at the end of many streets!. Even when paying for an overnight slip, sometimes the dinghy is useful for getting to places on the "far side" of a harbor... (Think St. Michaels!) We keep the Highfield Aluminum RIB on davits - easy to pull up and drop down with just the rope we use as a tender threaded through one of the far handles. The toughest part is putting on and taking off the 4 HP yamaha - in hindsite, I would opt for either a torqueedo or a 2.5 - the 4 only gets it on a plane in ideal conditions with just one passenger... so a 2.5 would be lighter and easier...
 
Has anybody used one of these "porta-bote" folding dingy's? My uncle had one 20 years ago and seemed to like it.

https://www.porta-bote.com
 
Larry H":n46a5wr8 said:
YukonRon,

I am interested in the Portland Pudgy as a dingy on my R-27 Classic. Did you install the Weaver Davit mounts yourself, or did you use the factory installed mounting pads for the Weaver mounts? Do you have the stern rails on your swim step?

Do you have any photos of the dingy stored on the swim step?

Thanks
Hi Larry,
The davits were installed when we got the boat. I'm not sure if they were factory installed or if the previous owner had them installed by Port Boat House when he bought the dinghy. We don't have stern rails on the swim platform. We pull the dinghy up vertical, then there are a pair of stainless steel arms that clip on to hold it. We will be getting a pulley block to help with raising it up to vertical, as it is a bit heavy to pull up, even with the two of us.
We like the Torqeedo motor for the clean and simple electric motor; and the fact that it breaks down into modules, so each piece is a manageable weight.
We have been pretty careful about going out in rough weather or long distances. I'm guessing we have no where near pushed its limits. Still, I would not go exploring for long distances as I might with a bigger RIB and outboard.
So far, we are happy with it.
Ron

 
ixlr8":2kwx2fus said:
Has anybody used one of these "porta-bote" folding dingy's? My uncle had one 20 years ago and seemed to like it.

https://www.porta-bote.com

I had a Porta-Bote 4 dinghies ago. Kinda wish I had kept it, just for using around our home waters.

The pros:
It is virtually indestructible.
It "slithers" over waves (doesn't bounce like an inflatable, doesn't slap like a hard dinghy).
You can fold it up and put it on the top rack on your SUV when off your bigger boat.
Reasonably stable.
It rows OK - not great, but better than in flat bottom inflatable.

The cons:
It is just about impossible to set up onboard a boat, unless you have a BIG deck (used to use it on our trimaran with a 20' beam).
When disassembled, the seats and transom take up about as much space as the folded boat.
The black "seam" at the bottom leaves black marks if hauled across any gelcoat.
When new, you have to use a wooden "pry bar" (not an actual pry bar) to open it up to insert the first seat.

I was told by the company that a 5 hp motor would get our 12' model on plane with 2 adults onboard - nope. I once had it snap closed when the wooden "pry bar" slipped while I was standing in the boat to get the first seat in - it clamped down on my legs like a shark... more funny than painful.
 
The question of how important and what type of dinghy to carry is a very personal choice, much like choosing the type/size/style of your vessel itself. Often this comes down to how one uses their boat. If you moor your boat, and rarely anchor, there may be very little need for a dinghy at all. For us, our assortment of dinghy(s), kayaks, and SUP board are a vital aspect to our overall boating experience. The R27 Classic is set up exceptionally well to maximize carrying so many different types of dinghy's or paddle craft, especially for a trailerable boat.

Some complain that a dinghy on Weaver-style davits hanging off the swimstep is problematic as it limits visibility. This is true, especially if you moor or visit marinas a lot. For us, given that we trailer rather than moor, and rarely enter marinas, this is a non-issue. Yes, visibility is somewhat impaired looking aft when underway, but a pair of relatively inexpensive rear-view mirrors strategically placed on both port and starboard railings mitigates 90% of this issue.

The added advantage - especially if primarily cruising to seek solitude on anchor - is a very simple, quick, and easy-to-deploy dinghy. When we anchor, which is 90% of the time, within the first 5 minutes of cutting the engine we have our dinghy deployed. Often, a trip ashore is our first task (dog duty); but we spend a lot of time relaxing in the cockpit and we like the unobstructed view with the dinghy "deployed" (afloat, but still attached to the Weaver snap davits). An added bonus is with the dinghy thus deployed, it "extends" our swimstep and cockpit area to provide more "back porch" space. This can serve to reduce clutter in the cockpit while providing space to assemble gear like crab pots, stow kayak paddles in between excursions, assemble other water toys such as a sailing rig (we alternate between the typical Ranger Tug RIB and a Walker Bay Sailing RID) or even a slide-seat rowing rig I can attach to the Stand-Up Paddleboard. On hot days, our Golden Retriever, Moxie, enjoys laying in the dinghy absorbing the coolness of the water on this floating “back porch”.

We cherish time aboard Seaquel, but even more, we love the exploring that our Ranger Tug affords and often the adventure is just beginning when we attain our targeted destination. When the anchor is secure, the adventuring continues via dinghy (or other paddle craft). And we love the exercise that these additional watercraft provide. Although we carry a small Yamaha 2.5hp outboard for the dinghy(s), we rarely use it because the inflatable dinghy with fiberglass V-hull rows surprisingly well; and the Walker Bay rows exceptionally well. And while we use (and even prefer) the kayak or SUP as a means of exploring, a dinghy provides more secure and comfortable transport in rough conditions, makes stern-tying much easier, while also providing a serviceable life raft in an emergency.

Some say there are two types of boaters: those with dogs; and those without. We are the former, and it truly changes the way we boat, encouraging us to get off the boat more. But you could also divide boaters into two other camps: those who use dinghy’s and those who don’t. And, not coincidentally, those two groups would likely be aligned along similar lines.
 
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