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Has anyone mounted a down rigger on their R25? I am going to install a Scotty and the swivel mount is slightly bigger than the gunwale. Pics and detailed descriptions would be great.

Thanks, Jason
 
Hi

I had installed two electric scotty downrigger with swivel mounts on our R25. Easy installation I use the mount for both fishing and platform for electric crab/shrimp pot puller. You will have to remove guard rail above downriggers. another easy job to do. I will send you pictures as soon I figure out how to do it. I might have to get your E-Mail address.
My address is dencarst@comcast.net.

Dennis
 
I also mounted in the same fashion on our R25 ( under the removeable rail ). Worked great for our electric trap puller etc.
I'd send you pics however we just sold our R25.

Tim
 
I realize you are asking about installing on an R25, but I thought I'd post these pictures anyway on the chance they might help. These are from an R21EC.

Scotty makes a mount specifically for boats with narrow or uneven gunnels. It's their 1025 right-angle bracket mount.

http://scotty.com/fishing-gear-equi...ystems/1025-right-angle-side-gunnel-mount.htm

Here is a picture with the Scotty downrigger mounted with a swivel base on the 1025 bracket. Just two finger bolts to attach (takes just a few seconds and is very sturdy).

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When you are not using the downrigger, there is only a small plate remaining.

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I hope this helps with your R25.

dave
 
Hi Folks,

I have used these Scotty Side mounts, and they work very well. I was wondering if they would work on my new EC-21 that I have not yet taken delivery of. It looks like a perfect solution, especially as it looks as though you have access through the speaker hole. It is of course important to distribute the load by way of a backing plate on the inside.

Best,

Andrew Holmes
 


Here is a Scotty downrigger plate on the port side of my R21-EC. You'll note the metal plate backing that the unit sits on.
 
I would like to ask if the metal backing plate is a Scotty option or a custom built solution? It appears that the metal plate provides the option of mounting the Scotty at the point of juncture where the main unit swivels up and down and would not provide rotational capability in a horizontal plane. That is to say, that the Scotty unit would be restricted to a perpendicular relationship to the beam end of the boat and preclude an angular relationship of the unit to the hull. As mentioned in an earlier post, I used the "side mount" scotty option on another boat and when I mentioned the need for a backing plate to distribute the load, I was speaking of a piece of plywood or aluminum on the inside of the gunnel to distribute the load of the four mounting bolts of the plate, into which the two hand turned screws thread.
 
My brother-in-law keeps pestering me to get a down rigger. Is there a model that will temporarily attach to the rail?

Thanks

Mark
 
there are rail mounts for Scotty downriggers....check the Scotty web site for options....

Tim
 
Thanks Tim,

I looked the Scotty up on line and that what I am looking for.

Mark
 
ac,

Mine was a custom-built option -- by the good folks at Ranger Tugs. They had never put a downrigger on a 21-footer before and came up with the solution you see above, as well as the one here.

Hope this helps.

JtheK
 
I'm going through the same process on downrigger installation. I have an older Scotty manual downrigger that I infrequently used on my sailboat. For that I used the Scotty No 1015 Side Mount Bracket. On the R-25 this would mean removing the side railing each time. Scotty also has #1027 Rail Mount that I'm going to try. The Rail Mount comes with "Important: This downrigger mounting system relies on a strong railing, securely fastened to the boat". I think the Bolton hardware meets this standard. However I also have to fit this around the hardware for my bimini. I would prefer to use the rail mount and not have to take out the Bolton railing as I think there is just enough of an angle between the front and aft to make it a problem.

You can see the brackets on the Scotty website (www.scotty.com). Both are in the West Marine catalogue: Scotty No. 1015 is WM 5419981 @ $40 and Scotty No. 1027 is WM 435100 @ $75.
 
If the rod holders are 30 degrees, Scotty makes a mount the slips right into the rod holder. I don't know what degree the holders are because my new boat is in Philly and I am in upstate NY.
 
Ask the folks at Ranger. They can tell you. I'm guesstimating that the rod holders on my 2009 R-21 EC are at a >30 degree angle, though.
 
Scotty also sells downrigger mounts that fit in rod holders and have gimball mounted heads. They come in 2 sizes (diameter and depth of rod holder). They configure to the rod holders that have compound angles and point the rods outboard at different angles. Google scotty downrigger mounts and you'll see them listed between $65 and $90
 
Hi folks,

I conferred with John at the factory today regarding the Scotty downrigger mount the goes into the rod holders. It is as follows in the new Scotty Catalog: No. 1028 6 1/8” x 7 1/8” x 9” x 1 1/2”

The angle of the dangle is 30 degrees on the Ranger EC-21 and John suggested replacing the screws that hold the rod holder in place with through bolts.

IMHO, I would also consider a backing plate and some method of making sure that the flat part of the mount is resting on the gunnel and not just the chrome hub of the rod holder. Plumber's epoxy putty comes to mind, or wooden shims, etc. etc. If the ball gets hung up on the bottom and the cable is not cut or the boat not stopped in time , things can get tore up in a big hurry. Typically, downrigger cable is 150-200# test.

Best,

Andrew Holmes
 
ac holmes":2o49gtsd said:
Hi folks,

I conferred with John at the factory today regarding the Scotty downrigger mount the goes into the rod holders. It is as follows in the new Scotty Catalog: No. 1028 6 1/8” x 7 1/8” x 9” x 1 1/2”

The angle of the dangle is 30 degrees on the Ranger EC-21 and John suggested replacing the screws that hold the rod holder in place with through bolts.

IMHO, I would also consider a backing plate and some method of making sure that the flat part of the mount is resting on the gunnel and not just the chrome hub of the rod holder. Plumber's epoxy putty comes to mind, or wooden shims, etc. etc. If the ball gets hung up on the bottom and the cable is not cut or the boat not stopped in time , things can get tore up in a big hurry. Typically, downrigger cable is 150-200# test.

Best,

Andrew Holmes
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Andrew, I set my CDory up like this, and I did not care for it. I did not like the sloppiness of the mount in the rod holder. When I changed to Cannon Electrics, I removed the rod holders, and covered everything with a mahogany plate.

Steve
 
Thanks for the comment Steve,

I have come to the conclusion that I will not use the rod holders for mounting the Scotty's before I read your note, for the very reasons you mention. I want to use Scotty's because I have a nearly new pair of the best they make, and the Scotty's suit the kind of fishing I do very well indeed. I think the best option for me will be the side mount. I have used this mount in the past, and the great advantage is that the stresses are transferred to the corner structure of the gunnel, which is inherently very stiff and perfectly positioned to take the load, which is both down and aft. In the prior installation I did, the top and side of the gunnel was not an exact 90 degree situation so I made 7 degree hardwood blocks that worked perfectly. Best of all, the two hand screws that hold the pedestal to the side plate are quickly removed and the downriggers can be stowed in a minute or two. The side plates mount with four through bolts and do require a backing board (I used 1/2 inch
high grade plywood) about twice the size of the Scotty plate and fender washers as well. I have a minor, emotional aversion to drilling eight 1/4 inch holes in my new boat, but I am getting over it as I imagine those darn things slopping around in the rod holders.

Best,

Andrew
 
Hey gang,
Looks like the a close thread for these questions. Co-own a '13 R31. Looking to do some fishing/crabbing. For an electric crab puller, if the boat has 12V electrical ports under where the mounts would normally be on the boat if added, are those 30amp specifically for this purpose or just general 12V? If capable, need to switch out to the Scotty receptacle, or do a need a new 30amp line? Thanks in advance.

Never mind, what a concept I looked at the electrical schematic. Looks like those are the 12V Outlets (Stbd/Port Aft) 15amp, and Downriggers if installed would be 40A/separate. Anyone added those themselves?

-D
 
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