Drones

Under 249 grams (DJI Mavic Mini, etc) used for recreational purposes = No FAA drone Registration

If you post drone video to YouTube or use it in a business you MUST register each drone, regardless of weight. (Part 107)

The whole YouTube thing is a VERY grey area at the moment. The FAA has yet to set precedent yet where this is concerned. My feeling is the having a Part 107 commercial rating is VERY cheap insurance, both from the FAA and from all of the "Karens" out there that just can't seem to mind their own business. 🙂
 
There is no carve-out for micro drones any more. You have to register them. Spent the last 30 minutes looking for that exception on FAA.gov and don’t see it any more.


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Got it. Thanks. That pure recreation definition is quite narrow.


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I have a mavic air, it’s great. Word to the wise though, do not use your bow as a launching pad when it’s windy. I nearly lost an eye when wind blew the drone into me on take off, and had several stitches in my hand / chest…. It looked like a war zone on the deck of my boat.
 
Wow! That’s terrible. I always hand launch and retrieve from the cockpit. I have the original Mavic Pro. Still going strong.


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DBSEA - If your accident happened in the USA, technically I believe you were suppose to report that accident (since it requires sutures) to the FAA within 10 days of it happening per Section 107.9.

As to the Remote Pilot- Knowledge Test for pilots already licensed under Part 61, it’s a free training and test on the IACRA site. Took me under 90 minutes for the online training and 15 minutes to take the online test. Pretty straightforward if you’re already have a private or commercial pilots license, I scored a 98% on the first try.
So, all I need is a drone to fly and I’m ready to go. I’m going with the ability to fly under Part 107 rules even though I don’t intend to do commercial drone work.
 
scross":ags6ffr8 said:
DBSEA - If your accident happened in the USA, technically I believe you were suppose to report that accident (since it requires sutures) to the FAA within 10 days of it happening per Section 107.9.

As to the Remote Pilot- Knowledge Test for pilots already licensed under Part 61, it’s a free training and test on the IACRA site. Took me under 90 minutes for the online training and 15 minutes to take the online test. Pretty straightforward if you’re already have a private or commercial pilots license, I scored a 98% on the first try.
So, all I need is a drone to fly and I’m ready to go. I’m going with the ability to fly under Part 107 rules even though I don’t intend to do commercial drone work.
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Sutures are not reportable. “(3) causes severe hemorrhages, or nerve, muscle, or
tendon damage”


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Craigmconrad - it’s my understanding from the FAA regulations that any serious injury is reportable. Serious injury is defined as an AIS Level 3 injury. While not in the regulations, in the FAA’s training material it states that “ It would be considered a “serious injury” if a person requires hospitalization, but the injury is fully reversible (including, but not limited to, head trauma, broken bone(s), or laceration(s) to the skin that requires suturing)”
I guess the term “hospitalization” is open to interpretation but my working interpretation is that it means you required professional medical attention at a medical facility.
Sadly, while working for a FBO, I’ve seen a number of accidents involving injury and death. Anything that required a trip to the hospital was reported to the FAA or NTSB.
My experience with dealing with the FAA over the past 50+ years is that failing to report is a really serious issue but reporting something that may have not be absolutely necessary to report isn’t a problem. Had this accident happens to me or if I was present when it happened, I definitely would have reported it to the FAA.
 
scross":2fkcjlvg said:
Craigmconrad - it’s my understanding from the FAA regulations that any serious injury is reportable. Serious injury is defined as an AIS Level 3 injury. While not in the regulations, in the FAA’s training material it states that “ It would be considered a “serious injury” if a person requires hospitalization, but the injury is fully reversible (including, but not limited to, head trauma, broken bone(s), or laceration(s) to the skin that requires suturing)”
I guess the term “hospitalization” is open to interpretation but my working interpretation is that it means you required professional medical attention at a medical facility.
Sadly, while working for a FBO, I’ve seen a number of accidents involving injury and death. Anything that required a trip to the hospital was reported to the FAA or NTSB.
My experience with dealing with the FAA over the past 50+ years is that failing to report is a really serious issue but reporting something that may have not be absolutely necessary to report isn’t a problem. Had this accident happens to me or if I was present when it happened, I definitely would have reported it to the FAA.
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For clarification, the term “Hospitalization” means being admitted to the hospital (greater than 48hrs) for injuries such as a laceration. As far as reporting, the FAA will advise that it’s not reportable. As a Aviation Safety Consultant and trainer, I have had many conversations with the FAA and NTSB on reportable incidents. Frankly, there phones would be ringing off the hook if a laceration requiring sutures was reportable when dealing with drones. They really need to match the requirement with FAA Order 8020.11D


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thanks all. this happened a couple of years ago, so not probably relevant to report at this point. I am licensed and so is my drone, so good to know moving forward. -db
 
I’ll defer to craigmconrad on his interpretation of the FAA regulations and documentation on reporting this type of accident.
Rather than the formal accident and/or incident reporting we were discussing, there is a way to report UAV safety related events and/or incidents that is confidential, voluntary and non punitive.
https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/uassafety.html
This reporting system is for the following UAV events:
- Collision or Near Mid Air Collision with another UAS, Aircraft, or Object
- Equipment Issues (hardware / software / automation)
- Lost Link
- Fly Away
- Uncontrolled Descent
- Airspace Incursions (e.g. Flying too close to an airport)
- Environmental Hazards
- Miscommunication
- Procedural Issues
- Human Error / Mistakes
- Injuries

Reporting UAV events through this channel helps NASA and the FAA identify and address systemic safety issues and work to correct or minimize them. Reporting through this system effectively gives the reporting individual a “get out of jail free” card from FAA disciplinary action. Just something to consider if you are involved in a UAV safety event.
 
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