fitting for the waste port?

dbashJ56

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Hillary Leigh
Hey TugNuts!

I am wondering if any of you know about, or have, a fitting that attaches to your waste port, that also attaches to the hose to prevent a "Sh#! shower" if hose comes detached. We are interested in getting one, so if anyone knows where to get one, please send me a note!
Thank you in advance!
Debbie
 
You can get one free via the following link.

https://pumpoutwashington.org

You will want the 1 1/4 inch NPT size. Some marina fuel docks have them for free as well. The organization above distributes them through the marinas in Washington.

Edit: I corrected the adaptor size from 1 1/2” to 1 1/4” NPT. The opening on the boat measures 1 1/2” but that equates to a 1 1/4” NPT (National Pipe Thread) fitting. Sorry!

Curt
 
Thank you Curt!
Great information and I have contacted Pumpout WA and inquired about getting one!
Debbie
 
So I am wondering what it is that is being talked about here. Being a person always wanting to avoid a "Sh#! shower" I am wondering if I have just been lucky so far.

Are you talking about a fitting that goes on the pump out port? If so, how do these "Sh#! showers" happen?

Jim
 
Well, it has not happened to us, but did to a friend of ours when the hose came out while pumping!! He was with the Coast Guard for many years and is a very experienced boater and instructor!! I think he took about 3 showers and threw away clothes...

This attaches to the hose, precisely so that it can't come out, at least that is my understanding.
Debbie
 
jagizzi":280oddeg said:
So I am wondering what it is that is being talked about here. Being a person always wanting to avoid a "Sh#! shower" I am wondering if I have just been lucky so far.

Are you talking about a fitting that goes on the pump out port? If so, how do these "Sh#! showers" happen?

Jim

I personally have never been unfortunate enough to have a "Sh#! shower" but I have arrived at a pumpout station when all the various adaptors (which are typically provided and necessary to fit the various boats, usually some form of rubber gasket) for the pumpout hose were missing. The adaptor discussed above screws into your pump out port and adapts directly to the pumpout hose socket (which is standard). This allows for positive connection with hands free operation. Using the adaptors provided at most pumpout stations often involve some form of rubber gasket requiring you to keep pressure on the fitting to make the seal. With this screw in adaptor you can literally walk away and it will stay attached.

Even without the screw in adaptor, however, a "Sh#! shower" seems unlikely. Not sure how that would happen. More likely, you will get no suction and thus cannot pump out. If your tank is full (as ours was) and all the fittings had walked away (as was the case where we stopped to pump out) you will be glad you have this trusty adaptor (which we didn’t have at the time, but the experience prompted us to get one!)
 


If your waste fitting is located under a rail you may also need a PVC adapter to accommodate the marina's device, some are too large to fit under the rail. I made this and have used it many times.
 
OK, what is the tread diameter needed? Here in NJ nothing is free, Defender has these for sale, but there's a selection of diameters.
Thank you,
 
SgtAlf":cud1185q said:
OK, what is the tread diameter needed? Here in NJ nothing is free, Defender has these for sale, but there's a selection of diameters.
Thank you,
The Sealand waste adapter is model 343503, 1 1/4", 11.5TPI
PVC is 1 1/4"
 
I too made a PVC adapter as did Brian B, except I used a 45 degree elbow to avoid the problem caused by the rail. Works great and I leave it permanently in place.
 
Thanks Brian for the specs!!
 
The issue is the rail located directly above the pumpout opening. I ran into this problem the first time I tried to pumpout, where the pumpout facility's fittings were all too tall to work (interfered with the overhead railing). I managed to get the attendant (for $20.00) to borrow a tapered rubber 'cork-type' fitting from an adjacent boat repair facility. It has to be pushed into the boat's pumpout fitting by hand and held down tight the entire time while pumping to avoid any air leaks. It worked, barely, because it was still at an angle due to the stiff pumpout hose pressing against the rail. I was warned to hold down tight, and I noticed the attendants all moved back. LOL If the seal is lost or the level in the tank gets low and starts sucking air, the vacuum starts and stops while the hose pulsates rhythmically. Then the "sh#!" can backflow through the hose, pulsating with significant pressure (due to head pressure of the 'liquid' and air expansion from vacuum back to atmospheric) which may lead to a "Sh#! shower". Hope that makes sense.

I made 4 fittings of various configurations (2 like Brian B and Rworton described above) because I plan to travel to many locations. I made mine out of all black polypropylene material like the 1 1/4" pumpout fitting (for 'obvious' reasons?). I keep them in the propane locker. While test fitting them in the driveway, I accidently dropped one as it came unscrewed. That got me thinking.....will they float...NOPE! So I added floating keychain fobs to each (doesn't take much).

Now I can hardly wait to pump my "Sh#!" out. :ugeek:

Todd
 
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