Fresh water tank problem

Boont Boater

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
180
Fluid Motion Model
C-242 C
Vessel Name
Free Ranger
We came into Rio Vista after a nice cruise down the Sacramento River and found the bilge pump running full bore. A panicked examination revealed water coming out of a hole in the starboard aft area above the bilge. Detective that I am I noticed that the water tank was almost empty and the water pump was running. I fashioned a temporary plug but I'm nervous about putting a lot of water in (plus my plug leaks). Is there a missing plug? Anybody know about this? If it's the drain for the tank do you think that a more flexible person might find a threaded plug in the bilge?

We still have a 6 or 7 hours to get back to home port so any information will be appreciated.

Jeff
 
What does "almost empty" mean? Was the pump running due to sucking air or was it pumping? It makes a significantly different sound if you are used to it. If the pump was pumping you may be (relatively) lucky and find a hose popped off of one of the faucets, a tee connection, or the water heater. Much easier to access and fix than the tank. Well... mostly. The tees may be tough to get at.
 
I think that the pump was running because it was sucking air. If I could safely fill the water tank back up I think that I could purge the air and we can get back to normal. The water coming out of the hole didn't seem to have anything to do with pressurized water - which is why I think that it may be some kind of drain.
 
Had the same problem, the hose from the water pump to a Tee under the galley sink area came loose. I tried in vain to reach it but had to hire a very skinny service guy to reach down thru a hole I cut in the galley floor inside the cabinet. A word of caution to be careful cutting the holes as there are 120VAC lines running underneath the floor. I covered the hole with a round access hatch from WestMarine.
 
You need to isolate the cause. Having a 6 or 7 hour trip back to home port is not a big deal as long as you have determined that the water is not infiltrating from outside the hull. Get a few jugs of water and you should be set for your return trip without water in you tank. Next determine if the leak is from the tank itself or a blown fitting. Put enough water in the tank so the pump will suck water and self prime. Turn the water pressure switch off and make sure all faucets are off. Then turn the water pressure switch back on. If the pump starts pumping you most likely have a blown hose or fitting. Not an easy task to find and fix, but better than a leaking tank.

I am not sure what your temporary plug plugged. If water was weeping from a forward bilge drain, it should if water is accumulating in there. Plugging that weep hole serves no purpose and will just prevent the water from draining. Let the water out. If you found the source of the leak and plugged that then that is a different story.
 
Thanks all for the good advice. I fooled myself because water kept coming out after I shut off the pressure pump but it must have just formed a good puddle that takes awhile to drain. So after keeping the weep hole open and turning back on the pump I'm pretty sure that the leak is on the hot water side behind the cabinet. I can hear it but I can't reach it. I guess that I will have to hire the guy with the skinny arms and make sure that he doesn't cut our 110 volt power. 😱
 
You mentioned early on that the bilge pump was running but only pumping air. You should take a rag and clean the front face of the bilge pump housing where the two circles are. This area accumulates dirt and grime which can prevent the pump from running and or from turning off because it looses its ability to sense if water is cover the sensors.

Jim F
 
In case any one is interested I'll update this problem. My mechanic and I think that we found the leak - unfortunately in a tough access area in front of the generator (if I had bought this boat new - there wouldn't be a generator). He will do some surgery to get at it. Maybe an access hatch from the front of the engine compartment or the cupboards. He is well aware of the 115 volt lines running through there. I put together water systems that don't have leaks for 20 years sooo I'm curious what this weak link is.

I said the pressure pump was sucking air as it had emptied the tank. The bilge pumps were working, sort of. I have had a lot of problems with the aft pump, especially when it had the liquid contact points to turn on and off. I think that I replaced it three times until my guy (see above) installed a float switch in line with the pump. Not much room, as some of you know, in that R29 bilge so they both are hanging out down there. This time I think that there was an issue with some debris hanging up the float but I got it working about the time the water flow slowed down. We still have a working override switch too.

We had a good time on our week up in the Sacramento Delta but we also had a lot more problems then usual. Just for fun, I will describe them:

We came in on Wednesday night so we would be all set for a nice roll up the straits with good wind and current the next morning. Getting ready for our evening tea - no propane. Unfortunately this propane tank is the composite one that was recalled several years ago. Smart guy that I am, I thought that I would use it up before retiring it. Almost 3 years later - empty. Of course this isn't a standard tank so I was the first one in the store at West Marine where they had a steel,marine tank that fits nicely. OK but now I need propane so drive across Richmond to the only place that sells propane. Finally back to the boat only 1 1/2 hrs late.

Let's go - out around Point Potrero open it up and get that turbo working. Alarms go off we are over-heating. Steam coming out of exhaust some overflow of coolant in engine compartment, etc. Finally I restart, and find that at idle it isn't overheating but it still is too warm. Slowly go back in to Marina Bay and call Todd (see above) our cheerful hero. He is out diving bottoms and after a bit comes over and cleans ours. As once before, the raw water inlet is clogged with marine growth. He cleans it out and everything goes back to normal. A couple of lessons to the skipper here - watch that frigging temperature gauge better and if you are planning a big trip -schedule the bottom cleaing for the week before.

Finally we are out on San Pablo Bay (only 3 hours late) - I don't hear any chatter on channel 16, finally I ask for a radio check - nada. No radio. Onlly five drawbridges to deal with on this trip :|

I've already described the gusher at Rio Vista which meant no water for the last 3 days of our trip. Oh yeah my wife's gold crown fell off and then she accidently threw it away :cry:

This boat is about 7 years old so maybe this is a Ranger version of the 7 year itch

In spite of all these mishaps, we still had a good time 🙂
 
Back
Top