Garmin 5215 Chart Plotter

LADYBUG TOO

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Fluid Motion Model
C-288 C
Hull Identification Number
FMLT2916B909
Vessel Name
LADYBUG, TOO
After the great help for everyone on the pump out things went great until I started up my Garmin 5215. The menu screens come up and I can add the "Sonar" and get a display including GPS heading, speed and depth. When I touch the Navchart options the screen goes blank and the machine shuts down. This happened once before but the next time I went out all of the displays came up just fine. I don't believe anything corrects itself so any suggestions as to what's going on???? Anyone experience this before? Pat, Ladybug, Too
 
I had that exact problem with my 4212 - while trying to leave Boca grande on a day with limited visibility...
In my case it was the automotive blade fuse on the power cord - I figured it out two weeks later when back in Michigan...
Open the hinged door on the vee berth side of the console....
Follow the power cord from the appropriate breaker switch to the Garmin (a snake pit of cables back there)... The excess power cord will be coiled up and secured with tie wraps... In that coil bundle you will find an in-line fuse holder... Replace that fuse - it will look good, the vom will say it is good (when cold), but it isn't... It has a stress fracture that will pass enough current to go through the start sequence, but when you command it to navigate, the current ramps up, the fuse gets hot and there is a voltage drop that shuts the unit down...

While you are in there check/tighten all the screws on the breaker panel and check that all cords to the equipment are plugged into their sockets securely and the capture rings snugged down... (preventive maintenance)
 
Also be sure you have updated to the latest software. Search on this site for instructions.
 
After updating the software, not so easy if you are a Macintosh user, you may find the machine hangs up being unable to load the software. My 5212 failed and I got quite the run around when I called Garmin customer service. They wanted me to remove and ship the unit to them for repair, as they normally refuse to sent out a "new" one if your unit is more than six months old... Mine was well within warrantee.

Anyway, Kenny gave me the Ranger factory's representative at Garmin who called me and offered to help. He offered me different options, including sending a local radio repair guy out to remove and install a brand new unit in my boat wherever it was, in the water or not. We wound up having him just send me a complete new unit, and he simply asked if I could return my unit when it was convenient in the same box he sent me. He told me I could keep all the fittings from the new unit (like an antenna and all the wiring harnesses), etc. No credit card needed. Anyway, I felt lots better with this type of service which was not forthcoming when I first called Garmin on my own–more typical for our expectations of being treated special. Guess we're all spoiled! Get the guy's name and phone # from Kenny or Andrew when you need it.

These units do fail! My experience helped me rationalize buying an Apple iPad GPS as a backup unit. Actually, we managed when the Garmin froze up with Navimatics on an iPhone. Now I run Navimatics on the iIPad propped above the Garmin as Navimatics displays ActiveCaptain stuff about marinas, hazards, etc.

BTW, if you have to remove your 5212, you'll see four 2" long screws protruding from nuts on the back corners of your unit. These screws have slots but no heads so the nuts can be pulled off with the screws (threaded studs) left in place. Don't try to use a tiny screw driver as a couple of the screws are hard to get to and they are threaded in pretty deep; i.e., lots of turning needed to remove them. Buy a cheap ($12 at Home Depot) small metric ratchet set with deep sockets and its pretty easy to then get the nuts off leaving the studs in place. Newer 2010 Garmins have different plastic bushings to mount some of the electronics cables, but the new bushings are included and you can clip off the old ones on your Garmin and replace them. The reinstall went quick. Puttering around behind the helm's instrument panel, it was nice to see our boats are prewired with the Garmin hooked up to the radio for DSC automation of distress calls.
 
Rick,

Thanks for the post. When I went to the Garmin site I found that I was way behind on updates. Reading through the list I found several changes that most likely will solve my problem. I just bought the bundle and should have it in a few days. The machine fired up correctly today but that was at the dock and I am not going anywhere until the software update card arrives. I assume upload instructions will come in the package. I bought Ladybug, Too about two years before I needed her because the price was too good to pass up. I am only just beginning to appreciate the things I need to learn. My old boat was simple with my own modifications so I knew what to check when things went south. This R-29 is one heck of a lot smarter than I am. Tugnuts are saving my arse big time and I appreciate it. Pat, Ladybug, Too
 
Pat,
The update should be very simple. Just turn on your Garmin Chart Plotter and RADAR and wait for it to start up. (The GPS and SONAR should start up automatically) Then insert the SD card. The chart plotter should read the SD card and distribute the updates to the appropriate equipment. It has been a while since I updated mine, but as I recall, it was pretty painless.
 
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