Garmin communication settings w VHF

hartyparty

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I have a new-to-me 2017 Cutwater 242 Coupe and the Standard Horizon GX1600 is not getting the GPS coordinates from the Garmin 7610 Chart Plotter. I have tried changing the NMEA 0183 settings without any success. I am hoping that the issue is just a setting issue, as it is very difficult to see the connections on the back of the chart plotter. Could someone please tell me what communication settings they are using? Thanks !
 
I have the exact same boat and setup, I can check my boat in the morning.
What exact settings are you looking for? Radio settings?
Did you check to see if the NMEA 0183 wires are hooked up?

I know this sounds stupid but I have to ask: Is your boat stored in a metal warehouse without access for the GPS to receive a signal?
 
It is difficult to see if the wires are properly connected. They are part of the "power" plug in the back of the Garmin, and it is difficult to get to or to see. (The fuse table drops down and gets in the way of seeing the entire back of the Garmin).

I am hoping that the problem is somehow related to the settings - since that should be easy to fix.

The "output sentences" that I need are found on the Garmin by:
Long press of Home / settings / communications / nmea 0183 setup / output sentences / system / you will see five digit codes which are set either "on" or "off". I need the "on" or "off" setting for each of the codes.

Our boat is at our dock and I can see the lat / long on the Garmin.

I applied for and received a MMSI number which I inputted into the VHF. I am now getting an alarm that the VHF is not receiving the GPS coordinates. The previous owner did not have an MMSI number and may have not cared that the VHF was not receiving the GPS coordinates.

Thanks for your help !!!
 
Our 2016 Cutwater 24 arrived without wiring connecting the Garmin chartplotter to the Standard Horizon VHF. I installed the needed wiring and the VHF then received the GPS data. I ordered the needed cable from Garmin. Good luck.

Slade Cargill
2016 Cutwater 24 "Sojourner"
Longboat Key, FL
 
hartyparty":lgzvjro5 said:
I have a new-to-me 2017 Cutwater 242 Coupe and the Standard Horizon GX1600 is not getting the GPS coordinates from the Garmin 7610 Chart Plotter. I have tried changing the NMEA 0183 settings without any success. I am hoping that the issue is just a setting issue, as it is very difficult to see the connections on the back of the chart plotter. Could someone please tell me what communication settings they are using? Thanks !

I would think that you would be using NMEA 2000, not 0183. There should be cables going to a backbone so all your instruments talk to one another.
 
I would think that you would be using NMEA 2000, not 0183. There should be cables going to a backbone so all your instruments talk to one another.

The Standard Horizon manual stipulates use of NMEA-0183. I spoke with a Standard Horizon representative to try to resolve the issue. He confirmed the required use of NMEA-0183.
 
Our 2016 Cutwater 24 arrived without wiring connecting the Garmin chartplotter to the Standard Horizon VHF. I installed the needed wiring and the VHF then received the GPS data. I ordered the needed cable from Garmin. Good luck.

That is good to know. I was assuming that the boats were wired properly from the factory. I am not looking forward to install the required wiring. There is very little room to work. Did you have to remove the Garmin to get to the back of the unit?
 
This is a pretty straightforward job to complete. It is simply connecting 3 or 4 wires between the radio and the NMEA 0183 connection on the Garmin. I wrote it up and posted the procedure but it had no long term home for storage so has gone into the ether. I will dig around and see if I can find it to share.
 
I posted my wire confignin my album
 
hartyparty":3aytjpno said:
I have a new-to-me 2017 Cutwater 242 Coupe and the Standard Horizon GX1600 is not getting the GPS coordinates from the Garmin 7610 Chart Plotter. I have tried changing the NMEA 0183 settings without any success. I am hoping that the issue is just a setting issue, as it is very difficult to see the connections on the back of the chart plotter. Could someone please tell me what communication settings they are using? Thanks !

Hello,

We only recently started using the Standard Horizon VHF with NMEA N2k. You would need to connect the VHF via the NMEA 0183 network. Based on the responses above you should be all set to get GPS signal. Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
 
Kevin Lamont":16xksg2b said:
hartyparty":16xksg2b said:
I have a new-to-me 2017 Cutwater 242 Coupe and the Standard Horizon GX1600 is not getting the GPS coordinates from the Garmin 7610 Chart Plotter. I have tried changing the NMEA 0183 settings without any success. I am hoping that the issue is just a setting issue, as it is very difficult to see the connections on the back of the chart plotter. Could someone please tell me what communication settings they are using? Thanks !

Hello,

We only recently started using the Standard Horizon VHF with NMEA N2k. You would need to connect the VHF via the NMEA 0183 network. Based on the responses above you should be all set to get GPS signal. Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Thanks for your response. I followed the wires under the VHF and found the connection between the Plotter and VHF. The wires are labeled "VHF" and are connected "yellow to black" and "red to red". So it appears that the plotter and vhf were wired together at the factory. Regardless, I still can't figure out how to get the vhf to show the gps coordinates.
 
Did you follow my drawing? I found the factory had wired up my plotter to radio wrong. Check those wires. Once correct you should get communication both ways from the plotter to the radio and from the radio to the plotter if you do a position request from a MMSI system. It willl show their position on your screen.
 
hartyparty":285o2338 said:
Kevin Lamont":285o2338 said:
hartyparty":285o2338 said:
I have a new-to-me 2017 Cutwater 242 Coupe and the Standard Horizon GX1600 is not getting the GPS coordinates from the Garmin 7610 Chart Plotter. I have tried changing the NMEA 0183 settings without any success. I am hoping that the issue is just a setting issue, as it is very difficult to see the connections on the back of the chart plotter. Could someone please tell me what communication settings they are using? Thanks !

Hello,

We only recently started using the Standard Horizon VHF with NMEA N2k. You would need to connect the VHF via the NMEA 0183 network. Based on the responses above you should be all set to get GPS signal. Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Thanks for your response. I followed the wires under the VHF and found the connection between the Plotter and VHF. The wires are labeled "VHF" and are connected "yellow to black" and "red to red". So it appears that the plotter and vhf were wired together at the factory. Regardless, I still can't figure out how to get the vhf to show the gps coordinates.

"After further review" I see that the factory did NOT wire the VHF to the Plotter. The NMEA wires are bundled in a small black cable coming out of the VHF accessory plug. They were neatly folded and tied to the rest of the cable- but useless to the proper operation of DSC. The factory only wired the power to the VHF. Now I need to figure out how to get to the back of the Plotter where the NMEA wires are attached. It is not obvious, and there is not much room.
 
Pilotnavigator":29g7ly6r said:
Did you follow my drawing? I found the factory had wired up my plotter to radio wrong. Check those wires. Once correct you should get communication both ways from the plotter to the radio and from the radio to the plotter if you do a position request from a MMSI system. It willl show their position on your screen.

Yes, I reviewed your drawing, - thanks !, but I was still trying to find the NMEA cables coming out of the VHF. I have found them now, but I need to figure out how to get access to the NMEA wires coming out of the Garmin. The space is very tight on the 2017 C 242.
 
To get to the wiring needed to connect the Garmin to the VHF, I popped off the plastic strips at the top and at the bottom of the Garmin display, which gave access to the screws attaching the Garmin to the boat's panel. Removing these screws allowed the Garmin to be pulled out of the panel a distance determined by the lengths of the other wires going to the Garmin. I could then reach the cable that provides 12V DC to the Garmin, which also contains the wires that need to connect to the VHF. Good luck.

Slade Cargill
Cutwater 24 "Sojourner"
Longboat Key, FL
 
gsc3":26gai8gd said:
To get to the wiring needed to connect the Garmin to the VHF, I popped off the plastic strips at the top and at the bottom of the Garmin display, which gave access to the screws attaching the Garmin to the boat's panel. Removing these screws allowed the Garmin to be pulled out of the panel a distance determined by the lengths of the other wires going to the Garmin. I could then reach the cable that provides 12V DC to the Garmin, which also contains the wires that need to connect to the VHF. Good luck.

Slade Cargill
Cutwater 24 "Sojourner"
Longboat Key, FL

That's helpful. Thanks ! I think that the Garmin power wire harness that has the NMEA wires is run by the VHF and is looped and tie wrapped to another bundle of wires before it is run further aft. I am going to contact the Fluid Motion folks to find out if that is, in fact, the Garmin power wire harness. If it is, I should be able to remove the sheath on the wire harness and access the NMEA wires. Hopefully, I'll have an answer soon.
 
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