I Should Have Known Better

Boatagain

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From the Stupid Boater Trick file comes this tale of woe.

While I'm not a complete newbee, my beautiful wife came very late to the boating world and, while she loves our new toy, she finds parts of it nerve racking. For example, docking. With me at the helm she is the one who jumps off to make the initial contact with land and begin securing our dock lines. Since the boat is new and I haven't gotten around to buying more lines yet, we've been working with what came with Tug Dawg at delivery - just enough to secure her in her slip. This means that when we go somewhere, we bring the lines with us so we can tie-up at our destination. I've gotten into the lazy habit of simply uncleating the lines from the dock and tossing them into the cockpit and letting them lay there in a sloppy pile, with the other end still attached to the boat's cleats. My rationale was to save her from having to re-cleat at least one end of the lines at the next tie-up. I'm sure some of you can tell where this story is going. As the title says, I Should Have Known Better.

Yesterday, we were out for a Sunday afternoon cruise and were about six or seven miles from our dock when we decided to anchor in a quiet little cove. Dropped the anchor, let out the rode and put her in reverse to set it in the muddy bottom. All was fine for a few seconds but then a mighty commotion arose from the prop with a terrible accompaniment of heavy vibration. We were in about five feet of water but my first reaction was that we had either run aground or hit some underwater obstruction so I immediately put it into foward to move it the heck out of there. That was a mistake as the noise and vibration got worse. Cut the engine and came astern to see what was going on. One of our dock lines was tightly attached to a stern cleat with the other end disappearing under the swim platform. One tug on the line and my heart sank. The line was obviously wrapped around the prop, so tightly that I could not budge it. Somehow, one of the lines sitting on the cockpit floor had found its way out of the cockpit and was trailing behind us as we cruised. Not a problem until I reversed to set the anchor. Cutting it off the cleat didn't help much and fishing around under the swim platform in the 44 degree water yielded nothing but a very cold hand and arm. There would be no jumping in that water today. Going into Mcguyver mode, I zip tied and duct taped a sharp knife to the boat pole and tried poking around at the prop. Didn't help at all. Aggravated, ashamed and feeling very stupid I began to get nervous. This was a cold November Sunday with nary another boat around and sunset was about an hour and a half away.

After calming down I began weighing my options. Call for a tow? Maybe, but first I tried restarting the engine, hauling the anchor and gingerly putting her in gear. The vibration did not seem as bad this time and I experimented with several speeds until I found a smooth spot at about 1500 rpm and 8 knots. And so we limped home and survived to tell this story.

This morning, I called a couple of dive outfits. One said they were "understaffed" and couldn't help me until next week and one never answered their phone. I've got a free haul-out that came with my slip fee, so I guess that's what I will do.

Now, what damage might I have done? What should I look for? And will I ever get over my embarrassment? 😳
 
Your subject line is great, I think I could have a few of those.

Hope the damage is not too bad !

Thanks for sharing your story
 
Hello Michael, et al,

Here is what you need
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It's a knife rigged such that you reach under toward the prop and catch the rope to be cut in the 'V'

I've seen a longer handled version at another online merchant which I cannot find at the moment.

Fair Winds and Unfouled props,

dave
 
I hope you bought 2 sets of lines! That's a lesson well learned, you wont forget that one. You were able to move the boat, so it shouldn't be too much damage. Once the lines are off, visually check the prop and shaft. If you still have vibrations, once back in the water, then you have a bent prop or shaft or both.
 
We have had a line wrapped around out prop (from a trailing halibut long line) and were towed into port (did use the prop some to dock). We pulled her out with our trailer and what I found was a large knot of line wrapped around the prop shaft. Wanted to frame the knot of line but in shame just threw it away. Turns out the line was just wrapped around the shaft and floating loosely in the water as the prop turned. We had no damage. With your line tied to the cleat the angle should have the line coming forward so there might not be any line in the prop, just a tight knot around your shaft. Hope your situation is the same and you can get safely back out on the water.

Don
 
If this is your worse story, you're doing pretty well!

Seriously, after you cut the line off the prop/shaft, check the cutlass bearing. If it looks OK, and there's no obvious damage to the prop & shaft, trim tabs and swim-platform supports, water test the boat and check for vibration. Since you'll be hyper-sensitive at this point, you'll probably feel vibration that's always been there 🙂 But if it's not bad, I'd simply go back to using the boat and consider this a lesson-learned. If there's obvious damage (either by visual inspection or a lot of vibration), then it'll be an expensive lesson-learned.

You will probably find part of the rope has melted into a plastic tube around the shaft. Difficult to cut off, but it makes a great trophy!

Jeff
 
Thanks all for your empathy. Ya live and ya learn.

Dave, I would have traded my first born (she was onboard) for that tool! Where can I find one? And Jeff, what the heck is a cutlass bearing? Another question: Will I be able to rotate the prop by hand with the tranny in neutral and the boat on the lift?

The boat's gonna be hauled Friday morning. I'll report back on the findings. Now I just hope my engine compartment and cabin heaters do their jobs till then. Forecast is for temps in the teens in Baltimore tonight. I haven't worried this much about anything since my first was born. 🙁 Love hurts. 😉
 
Boatagain":3csqkqiy said:
Thanks all for your empathy. Ya live and ya learn.

Dave, I would have traded my first born (she was onboard) for that tool! Where can I find one? And Jeff, what the heck is a cutlass bearing? Another question: Will I be able to rotate the prop by hand with the tranny in neutral and the boat on the lift?

The boat's gonna be hauled Friday morning. I'll report back on the findings. Now I just hope my engine compartment and cabin heaters do their jobs till then. Forecast is for temps in the teens in Baltimore tonight. I haven't worried this much about anything since my first was born. 🙁 Love hurts. 😉

The boat hook with the "V" knife is at Hamilton Marine. They call it a "HOOK KNIFE EMERGENCY PROP TANGLE CUTTER." Look here (http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse. ... 46663.html). I KNOW I've seen the same thing with a longer handle somewhere online but cannot find it now.

Dave
 
Shades of swinging at anchor with no stern tie available and no motivation to put out a stern anchor in supposedly a sheltered bay. Crab pot over the side and into bed, all is well. Wake up to pitching and rolling and a check topside reveals the only troublesome wind direction has arrived, in full force. Of course, I can't retrieve the crab pot because the line is obviously tangled in the prop. The swim deck is pounding up and down several feet in whitecaps by this time and these Canadian waters are cold. No wetsuit. My crew this time is male and a real tough guy and gives a big grin and says it's a good time for a morning dip. Good bless him. Several tries later and after several bumps on the head and a cut from the Swiss army knife we have all the line clear of the prop and we are able to pull anchor and get out of these previously sheltered waters. I think the emergency kit needs a wetsuit and mask added ASAP. Glad your story ended well also. Ain't boating grand...
 
The cutlass bearing is a rubber "tube" around the prop shaft, where the shaft exits the hull. If the rope didn't go near this point, you're probably OK. Look at the end of the bearing you can see, and if it's smooth and doesn't look torn up, and you don't see any obvious chunks out of it, you're probably OK. If there are tears or chunks missing, it probably needs to be replaced, although it could probably still be used for a relatively short period of time, especially at lower RPMs.

Jeff
 
This is a good example of why there should be mandatory licenses in place. I know it didn't amount to anything serious, and thank goodness nobody was injured. A set of lines can be obtained for under $100. If I understand from this tread you don't know what a cutlass bearing is? That pretty basic stuff. I don't want to sound like a boater snob, but you need to take the Coast Guard Auxiliary boaters safety course ASAP. Just a suggestion. They will teach you basic navigation, safety and even periodic maintenance. Also the rules of the road will be covered in detail. Most of the time, you will be perfectly OK. But, in a panic situation or some kind of emergency, you need to know what to do.

Just the thought of pulling into my slip with no lines in place gives me the shakes. Sorry, just my opinion.
 
Some states, such as Washington, already require a boat operator's card. The test for the card does cover rules of the road, etc.

Re the fact that the specialized Cutlass Bearing term was unknown, that's a different matter. Drivers Licenses don't require that the holders pass a knowledge test on mechanical and other systems, so why would a boat operator's permit require that? I submit to you that it would be more useful to define terms and thus provide opportunities for learning, rather than to chide fellow Tugnuts because they don't know a particular term....
 
I agree Sue. At the end of the day we are all apprentices in life, and value greatly the learning and teaching opportunities contained herein. Thank you all!
 
Agreed Sue!

Those types of replies (RE: pugtug613) are better saved for a "private message".
 
Thank you Sue, pleeeson and Barry. I thought pugtug's post was a bit harsh myself.

Also, thank you Jeff and Dave for your responses to my questions. This is one great group!
 
Tug Dawg was hauled today, the tangled knot of twisted line easily removed and no apparent damage to anything. Back in the water and she ran as smoothly as ever with no vibration from idle to wot. Whew. 😀
 
Boatagain":23cp2vta said:
Tug Dawg was hauled today, the tangled knot of twisted line easily removed and no apparent damage to anything. Back in the water and she ran as smoothly as ever with no vibration from idle to wot. Whew. 😀

That's great news and a big relief to find no damage.

Dave
 
Hi Barry, thanks for the correction! You are correct - WA State boat operators are exempt if born before 1955! There is one caveat though, as posted on the state website:

"Boaters in Washington need to have their Washington State Boater Education Card with them when operating a boat 15 horsepower or greater. Boater operators born before January 1,1955 are exempt but may choose to get a card if they plan to boat in Canada or Oregon since both require mandatory education."

I guess we Northwest boaters would plan to add the Boater Ed Card to our Nexus cards in the list of "must-haves!"
 
Sue: I wonder if having taken the USCG 12 week Boat Safety course and having the graduation card for this would be accepted in lieu of the Education Card ?
 
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