marine or auto diesel

Ask ChatGPT, it has a good explanation. Looks like it is no problem.
 
Much Thanks, I do no usually think of that, I did go to Gemini, trust but verify, and they said the same thing!
When we pull our boat out of storage at the end of march, I am having the delivery guy swing by the gas station as I believe we have somewhere around 10 gallons in the tank, unknown for sure, with 180 gallon capacity...I want to minimize overall coats! 😀
 
My understanding is that marine and agricultural diesel has dye in it. Otherwise it’s that same. The dye is to show that this fuel does not pay road taxes. If they catch you with it in your car’s fuel tank, there’s going to be consequences and repercussions. You don’t want that. But the motors run fine.
 
The only difference between on-road and off-road diesel is the tax that’s collected and has red die added for ease of enforcement. Off-road diesel used in marine, agricultural and construction is not required to have road use taxes collected.
The cost of off-road diesel is less due to the federal and state taxes collected and will vary from state to state.
However most fuel prices on the water/pier are more expensive due to the increased cost of insurance and spill clean ups
If purchasing fuel in large quantities it would be worth considering the difference!
Bob
 
Here in CA, Road diesel, ie: non red dye, is $4.89/G. Red Dye at the fuel dock is $4.89. LOL
 
A&Etug said:
Much Thanks, I do no usually think of that, I did go to Gemini, trust but verify, and they said the same thing!
When we pull our boat out of storage at the end of march, I am having the delivery guy swing by the gas station as I believe we have somewhere around 10 gallons in the tank, unknown for sure, with 180 gallon capacity...I want to minimize overall coats! 😀
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Have you thought about storing the boat over the winter with a full tank, in order to minimize condensation in the tank?
 
The last time I filled up at the gas station in town before launching the boat I discovered the fuel at the marina was actually less expensive. Since that time, a few years back, I always just fill up at the marina. I decided I really appreciate the marina having it available, so we don't need to have to go back on the trailer to refuel and supporting their operation was more important than sometimes saving a few cents per gallon.
 
We bought our boat late in the fall from wisconsin and had her trucked to our home port in Ohio where she has been in heated storage all winter, where we intend to launch sometime in early April. I have no idea how much diesel is in there, guessing about 10 gallons.
We used to fill our sailboat up prior to the end of the season and did so before we sold he. There is always next year! 😀 .
I will try to monitor the fuel price at the marina but wanted to b prepared for the 170 gallon fillup for the beginning!
Bsides with a fillup I get to learn milage/burn rate etc.
Thanks
 
A few years ago there was a difference between diesel sold for road use versus industrial/farm/marine. When EPA rules for ULSD(ultra low sulfur diesel) first came into effect there was a grace period of several years for industrial/farm/marine use. But that has long since passed and now all diesel is ULSD. The only potential difference is whether the diesel is treated for low temperature use.
 
Here in San Diego you will pay as much as $6.39 a gallon of marine diesel at the fuel dock, that's the red dye stuff with no road use tax.
The stuff you buy at the corner station that has the road use tax is $1.50 to $2.00 cheaper.
 
I guess it's environmental fees and taxes the marina passes on?
 
Here in San Diego you will pay as much as $6.39 a gallon of marine diesel at the fuel dock, that's the red dye stuff with no road use tax.
The stuff you buy at the corner station that has the road use tax is $1.50 to $2.00 cheaper.
OverTime said:
I guess it's environmental fees and taxes the marina passes on?
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Expensive red dye
 
The permit to place a fuel tank at a marina can cost over a million dollars plus insurance to cover spills and clean ups and that cost is passed on to the consumer!
Most marinas don’t sell enough fuel to make it worthwhile or profitable for a business owner and only does it to benefit the general business of the marina.
The mark up on fuel is such that unless they are selling large volumes of fuel they are losing money at the fuel dock.
I can buy non taxed diesel fuel for my farm use but the regulations to store it will require me to spend much more than it’s worth.
It’s just a fact that the more regulation on a product the more that product will cost.
Bob’s two cents!
 
If you can trailer your boat, the diesel and gas at the pump, on land, will almost always be cheaper at the pump. But then, if you keep your receipts and turn them in to the Department of Revenue, which makes it even cheaper, you can get your road taxes back in Washington I don’t know about other states but I would think so. State diesel (special fuel) tax: $0.584 per gallon, federal diesel tax: $0.244 per gallon Combined diesel fuel tax you pay at the pump: ≈ $0.828 per gallon, you won't get your federal tax back.
 
I also forgot to mention that Washington has roughly a 40 to 50 cent per gallon carbon tax. Marine and agricultural users were not supposed to be subject to it, yet it appears to be built into the price anyway. Agriculture has managed to secure a small rebate — maybe 10–12% — but I’m not sure how marinas handle it. It may be that any maritime exemption applies only to commercial operations, though I’m not convinced the legislators even understand the distinction.
 
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