Monkey Fur's gotta go!

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TexasEye

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Fluid Motion Model
C-248 C
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FMLT2599D808
Non-Fluid Motion Model
C-Dory Angler 22
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Tug Time, Athens, Alabama
Before I remove the Monkey Fur from Our RT-25 Classic...Does anyone have suggestions on salvage or replacement (not Monkey Fur)...Diesel exhaust and Monkeys don't mix well...
 
Yep, kinda my thoughts too, but before I do!!! How hard is the removal and replacement? and..Is the Monkey Fur salvageable or worth saving. I've tried spot cleaning with Oxyclean and FOLEX with poor results. I didn't use a carpet vac. I used my shop vac. I even thought about hiring a Barber to trim and shampoo the beast.

It's UGLY and really sucks up the Diesel Exhaust...I thought about replacing the Bimini with Monkey Fur to filter the air before it enters the cabin...
 
Our R25 monkey must be a different breed. Oxycleen, elbow grease and vacuum cleaned it O K. Not perfect, but king of clean.


Stuart Bell
Ranger 25: Shearwater
(561) 352-1796
 
Captain Stuart,

You scrub the oxy clean! I was afraid to pull the critter's fur...I'll try scrubbing it down before I surrender to the "Wild Kingdom"
 
I also hate the Monkey Fur, it acts like an air filter trapping dust and diesel exhaust. I removed the fur from the overhead as you enter the cabin. The adhesive was letting go and it was dirty. I tried replacing it with a vinyl but with the heat the adhesive didn't last, I painted it white with a top side paint. I covered the vertical bulkhead panels in the V-Birth with a white marine vinyl from a fabric store. I also covered the band around the v-birth with marine vinyl (pic in my photo album).
SailRite has fabrics to recover boat interiors, they have a fur that stretches for contours. They have a video showing how it is applied.
This is what is being used on the new 29's http://mascofabrics.com/products/floori ... -flooring/
The fur has some insulating ability, I've been told that boats that are bare inside will sweat in the cold weather when the heat is on, maybe the fur soaks up the moisture adding to discoloration.
 
The monkey fur on our 2010 R25 is bad enough to make my wife cry. The more I scrub it with oxyclean the worse it gets. I was wondering if what I am seeing is adhesive coming through?
 
SgtAlf":3iosntla said:
What the heck is Monkey Fur?
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Monkey Fur is a carpet type material used in boats to cover interior bulkheads etc. If u don’t have it you are very fortunate.
 
WoW! I caused some emotions! And I understand...Monkey Fur is terrible
 
Just be aware that the monkey fur provides is somewhat of a thermal break. Ever been in a Rosborough or a C-dory after a cold night and running some heat? It is like a rain forest. Take a look at your hatch windows after a cold night and look at the condensation on it. If I were replacing it I would think about something that will provide that similar break or something that can be applied over the monkey fur.
 
TexasEye":3sah13xw said:
Captain Stuart,

You scrub the oxy clean! I was afraid to pull the critter's fur...I'll try scrubbing it down before I surrender to the "Wild Kingdom"
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Be careful in the amount of scrubbing that you do. Scrubbing will loosen the fibers and cause fur balls or hair loss, you don't want to end up with a bald monkey. :lol:
 
NorthernFocus":2e6300mt said:
Maybe stopping the exhaust leaks is of more concern than replacing the liner?
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No exhaust leaks, that's a No-Go with any vehicle/vessel/aircraft I have ever owned or Operated.

The problem is with an 8 MPH cruise and a 8MPH plus following (Abaft) wind the exhaust finds the Cockpit and Cabin, this is normal on any Vessel and Diesel fumes have properties that stick to almost anything.

The Original Owners took great care of the Boat and were upset at the Monkey Fur when I Surveyed her. The only Two things I had second thoughts about was the Monkey Fur and the limited (NONE) Visibility because of the Head...I LOVE this Little Tug...
 
TexasEye":g73euwco said:
...The problem is with an 8 MPH cruise and a 8MPH plus following (Abaft) wind the exhaust finds the Cockpit and Cabin, this is normal on any Vessel and Diesel fumes have properties that stick to almost anything....
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The staining on your liner must be different than on our boat. If what you describe is the cause then presumably it manifests itself as a general/equally distributed staining of the material. The only discoloration we've seen shows up along seams/edges. We must also travel upwind more than most because it's very rare that we experience exhaust odor in the cabin. Though it is possible that the Cummins runs cleaner than the other engines.

We also love the tug. Well we love it after spring commissioning is over and I'm not standing on my head in the engine space. In northern climates the extra layer of fur contributes greatly to comfort in the cabin.
 
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TexasEye":i9kpd1f2 said:
No exhaust leaks, that's a No-Go with any vehicle/vessel/aircraft I have ever owned or Operated.
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You may not have an exhaust leak. With the Ranger ventilation system you may get some exhaust fumes in the boat at slow speeds possibly causing soot and increased engine compartment temperatures. This is enhanced if a Bimini is installed. The tailgate effect. There is no air flow from ventilation, air coming in air going out because there are no vents. The air comes into the engine compartment around the cockpit between the air gap of the cockpit sole and the hull. If exhaust is present the engine induction sucks air and fumes into the engine compartment and the only way those fumes escape is through the engine induction ( not good for combustion ) the exhaust fumes (soot) that doesn't escape can migrate into cabin areas. Diesel powered boats are not required to have sealed bulkheads between engine and cabin space. Gas powered vessels have this requirement. Tugs and Cuts with full enclosures and running in warmer water and air temperatures most likely will be running higher engine compartment temperatures and not fulfilling a requirement of H-32.4. REQUIREMENTS -IN GENERAL
Ambient Temperature - For design purposes, the ambient temperature of machinery spaces is considered to be 50° C (122°F) and of all other spaces is considered to be 30° C (86° F).-H-32.S. INSTALLATION
e. Ventilation openings shall remain outside of weather enclosures.

This is my opinion and I only have one boat to base this opinion on and that is my 26 Cutwater. I agree with NorthernFocus find the source fix it then do the cleanup. Better ventilation may help. I added ventilation and exhaust blower to my boat this winter. The added ventilation fulfills the requirement of Volvo based on the information given in the Volvo engine D3 installation manual.
 
Clean the fur with bleach water and a sponge. Make the bleach strong enough for good cleaning. Don't worry mon, be happy. Gird thy loins and slay the dragon and you will win fair maidens love.
The fiberglass underneath does not react. Let the bleach soak a few hours then use a fresh water rinsed sponge to remove excess bleach if you worry. Fan dry.
Be aware that bleach will not 'eat' forever. It degrades and gasses off rather quickly. Bleach water in a bucket will lose most of the bleach in 8 to 12 hours. In 24 hours there will barely be any bleach odor left.
I have used bleach for nine years on my fur. I have yet to find a downside.
 
Levitation":18451y6q said:
Clean the fur with bleach water and a sponge. Make the bleach strong enough for good cleaning. Don't worry mon, be happy. Gird thy loins and slay the dragon and you will win fair maidens love.
The fiberglass underneath does not react. Let the bleach soak a few hours then use a fresh water rinsed sponge to remove excess bleach if you worry. Fan dry.
Be aware that bleach will not 'eat' forever. It degrades and gasses off rather quickly. Bleach water in a bucket will lose most of the bleach in 8 to 12 hours. In 24 hours there will barely be any bleach odor left.
I have used bleach for nine years on my fur. I have yet to find a downside.
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There are few things aboard a boat that aren't made better with a good dose of the OX 😀
 
Monkey for would have to improve quite a lot to be terrible.


Stuart Bell
Ranger 25: Shearwater
(561) 352-1796
 
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