NW Boaters and Air Conditioning??

Digglito

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Hello Tugnuts!

I would like to hear from NW boaters specifically who spend a lot of time on their boats and I wonder if you would have chosen to get the air conditioning if you had it to do over or if you really love it if you have it now. I have been boating in the Puget Sound my entire life and have spent often three weekends per month on my boat for most of the year. I have never thought I needed it on the other boats I have had. I am planning to purchase a new 31CB and am wondering if others would recommend it. It seems our summers are getting warmer and warmer. I am 41 now and plan to keep the boat for 30 years which is a factor to think about. Will I get less tolerant of the heat as I get older? Thoughts?
 
I think it just comes down to individual personal lifestyles.

I've lived out here for almost 18 years and don't have/need ac in the house (grew up in New Jersey where ac was mandatory from humidity).

I've used my tug almost every weekend since receiving it in March. I'm always at a dock with power. If it was ever too hot in the cabin, i just used a simple fan with the Windows open.

If you are on hook, you'd have to run a generator. Are you getting a genny too? I get the convenience of a built in ac unit, but they do make small portable single room ac units that you could vent out a window. Probably much more affordable than the single built in unit that will always have to be on and take up space on the boat?
 
no AC in PNW

nights are cool in the summer. open the windows during the day. no problem.
 
Thank you! That has been my experience as well. I have spent many warm nights on the boat and never had issues. I just wanted to make sure these cabins did not retain heat or anything wierd. The NW Edition is what i want. Thanks again.
 
No AC needed in the NW in my opinion. A fan is sufficient on the warm days or just stategic opening of the hatches to catch the breeze.
 
I don’t know whether you’ll need it there - I picture the NW as cool, especially on the water - but I have 34 years on you and I can tell you that you do become significantly less tolerant of heat as you get into your 70s. I’m on the east coast and the infamous Washington D.C. heat and humidity are what prompted me to start looking at trawler/tug type boats. We were on the sailboat today, and it was OK at 75 degrees (a real abnormally for August), but when it reached 79 and the saturated air began disgorging water droplets, it was uncomfortable. It is frequently like this here with temperatures in the 90s and above.

One year my wife and I were in Seattle and then went down the Washington Oregon coast. The weather was cool, in the 60s I think, with constant ocean breezes, and it felt absolutely wonderful after one of our summers. Isn’t the Pacific water quite cold? That’s my memory of it. We sailed from the Chesapeake to Maine at the end of June one year, and the water there was so cold we ran the boat heater at night.
 
its been in the 90's the last few weeks here in Seattle. the only time its been a struggle on the boat was on a 92 degree windless day in the marina. it would have be fine if I had a fan onboard.
Nothing a cold beer cant fix. no way I would spec the generator and AC for the rare use up here. not just the initial cost but also the maintenance and weight.
 
Well, I have the best of both worlds. We have been in the PNW and yes, air conditioning is for the most part not needed. However on those hot days it was nice. Although not always necessary, it is nice to run and remove whatever humidity is present.
Since we also use the boat in Florida, it is a definite nice feature when at a marina. Even in the winter months there are times having the air conditioning is a welcomed option. We also have the Wabasto, which I installed after delivery.
Anyone considering using the boat outside of the PNW might want to consider air conditioning.
On the other hand a generator was mentioned in a previous post. We do not have a generator and don't miss it. Then again, sometimes you don't miss what you don't have.
 
Mike: If you don't have a Genset how do you run your A/C ? I presume you have some other form of generating electricity for the A/C, right ?
 
From my experience as you age having A/C is a real benefit.

My wife and I hail from the UK where weather is moderate and temperature never too high (my famous last words I suppose).

We've lived in the USA a long time and spent time/lived in Georgia, Virginia, Connecticut and now in the PNW for past 41 years.

The heat/humidity in Georgia/Virginia/Connecticut was stifling for us and in Georgia when we first went there I lost 20 lbs within months because I simply had lost my appetite due to the heat situation. Going outside when in Georgia I can recall lifting my little finger and sweat started pouring off my body..... yuck/horrid. I never ever regained weight until we started our journey north to Connecticut.

So, we grew up with A/C for all the years we lived on the east side of the USA. It simply became a necessity for us.

The funny thing about Georgia was that we arrived there on Nov 26 (Thanksgiving) and it was absolutely down pouring with rain. The next morning we woke to several inches of snow.... for heaven's sake, what the heck.... this is the tropical south right ?

When we arrived in PNW 41 years ago (we drove cross country from Connecticut to Seattle taking a very weird route to see many of the great/wonderful sights over a period of several weeks), on an early Aug day the temperatures were hovering in the 90s. In fact when reaching Yakima it was over 100ºF and my wonderful Peugeot 504 wagon started overheating as we were towing a small MG Midget car behind us. Of course, the 95ºF temps we had in Seattle at this time caught us by surprise (much like the snow in Georgia had) as we thought we were traveling to the cool North West..... The high temps in Seattle continued for at least 3 weeks when we first arrived.

After living in the PNW now for 41 years we've found these high temperatures are rare enough that we decided to forego A/C in our house. We do however, have A/C in our car. :lol: About 10 years ago we changed our minds and had central A/C installed in our house as we had aged and the rare hot days/weeks were bothersome for us. About 7 years ago we downsized to a smaller house which did not have A/C (many houses in PNW do not have central A/C). The first thing we spent money on was for installing central A/C for the house. IMO, it was money well spent. Hot days/weeks in the PNW can be intolerable for us. We don't like the sun at all and are creatures of a moderate climate, and we welcome cloudy days. WARNING -- Surprise.... Surprise.... The PNW is probably an area with the highest humidity in the USA ... See "Seattle really one of the most humid cities in the U.S.? You bet!" - http://komonews.com/weather/scotts-...ost-humid-cities-in-the-us-you-bet-12-20-2015 dated Dec 20, 2015.... "Seattle ranks 7th nationally among major cities, even a tick ahead of Miami and just a few tenths of a percent behind other big Florida cities." ... "The catch is there is a big difference between relative humidity and another measure of moisture content: the dew point. "

So do you need A/C in the PNW ? I would say YES for some rare periods in the Aug timeframe each year. These rare periods could be for a few days and as long as a few weeks. I say YES as we have aged and are far less tolerant of high heat than we used to be.

Would I install A/C on my boat ? NO I would not, but that's because we don't spend weeks on board. If we were to spend weeks on board and especially during the months of July/Aug/Sep I would for sure. In fact I did consider A/C for our new 2018 R-27 which is being delivered to us tomorrow. However, to tell you the truth the extra expense of around $15K and the subsequent reduced storage space, noise of a Genset, extra weight and extra maintenance forced me to say "NO... way" to this option. For a larger boat and ignoring cost I would say "YES".... and consider it a luxury item.

In the meantime, we would purchase something like the IcyBreeze Portable Air Conditioner and Cooler if and when we really wanted some cooling on our smallish boat. 🙂

If heat/humidity is bothersome for you then yes, get A/C.
 
Might want to look for a new portable ac called zero-breeze
 
baz":1w369s8q said:
Mike: If you don't have a Genset how do you run your A/C ? I presume you have some other form of generating electricity for the A/C, right ?
Never really needed it while anchored. Open the v-berth hatch and beautiful air flow. Usually it is at marinas where you are not necessarily into the wind. Shore power and I have A/C.
 
We also have a n R31CB in Seattle. In our case, we have both AC and the genset.

We use the AC in winter for heat, and occasionally use it in summer on the rare day when it's muggy and no breeze.

I'm glad we got it, but it's not a necessity, IMO.

Jeff
 
Another benefit of Air conditioning is (and I don't care what anyone says, on the water the air is wet) it dehumidifies the air in the boat.
 
I'm in the PNW and use the AC when I'm in the marina working on stuff of hot days. When my wife was using her portable steam cleaner to give the material on the inside cabin walls a good scrubbing, the AC was a god-send. i don't use it when I'm out of the marina. I find the generator shatters the peace I'm looking for when I'm on the water. I'd rather sweat.
 
Even though most say A/C is not needed in the Northwest (and most of the time at anchor you can get away without it), my decision to go with A/C was made on a Desolation Sound trip sitting in the Comox marina with water streaming out of every Tug and CW that had it. And there were way more tugs and CWs than I expected that had it.
 
Many in the PNW would say A/C is not necessary and at anchor I might tend to agree. My decision to go with A C when the time comes stems from one of the Desolation Sound trips when we were all sitting in the Comox marina and there was water streaming out the side of every Tug and CW that had AC. To my surprise there were way more Tugs and CWs that had it than I would have expected (I think they were quietly being comfortable).
 
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