Prospective Owner Advice

daviddri

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Fluid Motion Model
C-30 CB
Hull Identification Number
FMLT2931B919
Vessel Name
Catch My Drift
MMSI Number
368093790
I am getting very close (weeks) from pulling the trigger on a new R29CB Luxury Edition to use on the Chesapeake and beyond. I asked a local owner if there was anything he would have done differently when he bought his and he said he would have bought the diesel heat option so he could use it in port in the winter after the AC had been winterized. Any other tips for an about-to-purchase owner?

Thanks,

David
 
We took delivery of our boat (2019 R-29 CB LE) this summer and after thinking about your question, there is nothing I wish we had included but didn't and vice versa, but we are still in the process of making it our own. I do have a list of things we were considering during the build process that we opted not to do until we operated the boat for a while and some considerations that have nothing to do with the build process. Not sure if any of these apply or are useful to you, but here they are:

1. Considered an upgraded, thru-hull xducer: opted to see how the in-hull xducer worked first before cutting a hole in the hull. We did the factory delivery in WA (absolutely recommend it if you can do it) and the xducer worked great. Took final delivery from Pocket Yachts on Kent Island and sailed the boat home to Hampton, VA. The in hull worked fine in shallow water, deep water and throughout the entire speed range of the boat in Chesapeake depths. For now, I plan to go with the factory installed xducer but may add a temp sensor to a trim tab to get that piece of data. We don't fish, so this setup will be fine for us.

2. Considered a CB bimini: I know it's a must have for some and one owner on Tugnuts had a custom one made that covers a lot of area on the CB which is awesome. Based on the necessary height of the bimini, we wanted to get a feel for the best bridge setup before committing. Still in progress.

3. Considered a full boat cover: We keep our boat on a lift and I want to do what I can to protect the hull color between polishing/waxing. I got a quote from King Canvas and a local Hampton sailmaker for a full cover. The $4K didn't seem outrageous, but the thought of me trying to work a cover this size over the boat in a breeze made me realize I was the weak link in that idea chain. Instead, the sailmaker is fabricating a skirt that I can drop over the bow, strap to rails/cleats and secure at the water line with a drawstring. Still in progress.

4. Considered a second chartplotter at the lower helm/Garmin Fantom/Garmin Wx Antenna/AIS 600: I really gave these some thought...for redundancy, capability, safety and symmetry. Ultimately decided to go with a cellular iPad Pro 12.9 mounted with an easily detachable flush mount to the dash for now. We can run charting apps, check weather, access the internet, etc., all through sources independent from onboard sensors. Potential limitation would be cruising outside cell range, but think that risk is minimal for us, at least for the foreseeable future. The AIS 600 is the one that I'm still on the fence about.

5. Rudder indicator: Our AP pump does not have the required sensor port, so we would need the additional converter in addition to the sensor itself...about $400 or so. There are cheaper stand alone units that would require a separate gauge on the dash. We back into our lift, so I thought this would be a great piece of data. In using the boat, however, it's clear that rudder position doesn't matter when backing down in slow bursts, especially with the thrusters. So, I just center the rudder based on 2.5 turns from a hard stop in either direction and leave it there while backing down. I think I've finalized my decision not to add this.

6. Winterize or not: Part of the beauty of having a dual helm boat is being able to go out when it's cold without having to be outside. We are opting not to winterize the boat so we can take advantage of good days, but we did take some additional steps. First, we got 2 Caframo space heaters, one for the berth and one for the salon. I also got a Caframo engine room heater. I monitor the temp/humidity of each space with wireless sensors that I can read at the base unit in the house. So far, we've only had one really cold night/day, but it looks like the heaters are doing their jobs. I did put isolation valves in the transom shower water lines (under the access just inside the salon door) and blew the lines out with air. I also blocked the engine air intake passages with rolled up towels (and put a towel through the steering wheel to remind me to remove them). It takes a few minutes to de-rig the heaters and towels, but not a big deal. The space heaters are pretty amazing, so we are planning to use them underway or at the pier if the engine heat and reverse cycle units can't keep up, but we haven't fully tested them in the coldest conditions, yet. Not sure if they would be a suitable substitute for your potential Webasto upgrade, but worth considering.

7. Freshwater/Salt Away flushing: I have used Saltaway in the past and while its true effectiveness can be the subject of an entirely separate forum, I am a believer and have seen the results on the boat externals and engines. I also like the idea of using freshwater for the flush and rinse rather than salt water, so I bought extra seawater strainer caps and am in the process of modifying them with hose attachments so I can hook up the Saltaway mixer. Still in progress.

8. I may be looking in the wrong places, but technical information associated with basic D4-300 maintenance beyond what's in the owner's manual is scarce. Also, my usual go to of YouTube doesn't offer much here, either. I bought the D4-300 Service and Maintenance Manual and Workshop Manual (total of about $100 through Volvo Penta). These manuals have all of the information I will need to do the basic maintenance required and ensure I have the right torque specs, process steps, etc.

9. Considered a dinghy: Eventually, we will need one, but until then, we didn't want one blocking the stern view. Still considering the options here, but we may try an inflatable kayak for the near term and see how it goes.

There may be others, but these are the big ones that come to mind. Enjoy the process!

Mike
 
Hi David. I see you’re in The Chesapeake Bay and assume you’ll get AC because of the humid summer months. If this is correct, double check with the dealer, but I don’t think Ranger Tugs will install the deisel heater. It’s been my experience that they’ll install one or the other. I like the idea but you may have to decide on AC or deisel heater, unless the deisel heater can be installed after the fact, if you decide on the Luxury Pkg that includes AC.

Jim F
 
Hi David - we took deliver of our R29CB from Pocket Yachts back in Oct 2017 and they have been a pleasure to work with. I have been meaning add a Bimini to the command bridge and hope to do that next spring which will make the CB more usable for us. We are winter storing the boat in the Boatel on Kent Island to avoid all the winterizing issues and to provide more protection to the colored hull. Good luck to you...

Tom
 
I tried to get the factory to install diesel heat in my 2017 R27 Luxury Edition when I ordered it. The answer was a definitive "No". The factory used to 'customize' their boats during building (and have done this in the past), but got too busy, so they started to offer only 2 versions - diesel heat or A/C & generator. I know that diesel heat can be added behind the oven in my R27 (but not easily). You probably can find a place to fit it in your boat also. However, I run a Lasko ceramic fan forced "brick" heater in my boat during the winter to help keep it dry, and that keeps it pretty warm, too. One or two may work for you, and for a lot less initial cost and trouble. It may be worth a try if you don't need it toasty warm in sub freezing temps. Good luck with your new boat.

Todd
 
Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. I pulled the trigger yesterday so the adventure begins...
 
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