r-23 dinette
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Hi there!
The dinette seats can possibly seat four, but it is not really designed to "sleep" four people. There is ample room for two in the v-berth and possibly another two in the mid berth. This depends on the needs of the individual. The dinette could potentially sleep two people, but that would be a decision for those looking to sleep there. It all depends on personal size and the comfort requirements of each person. I hope this helps a bit but please let us know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks!
Ralf
The dinette seats can possibly seat four, but it is not really designed to "sleep" four people. There is ample room for two in the v-berth and possibly another two in the mid berth. This depends on the needs of the individual. The dinette could potentially sleep two people, but that would be a decision for those looking to sleep there. It all depends on personal size and the comfort requirements of each person. I hope this helps a bit but please let us know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks!
Ralf
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Ralf,
Excessive port list is likely more of a problem than space for sleepers.
Remember this is a small boat with a narrow (trailerable) beam. The biggest problem we've experienced with the port side dinette is the prominent port list when four people are using the dinette.
Certainly, if you have two people in the dinette and two people in the cave berth, the boat will be dangerously unstable.
Our experience is that the dinette can comfortably sleep one small person and the cave berth is unusable as a sleeping area.
Notwithstanding the marketing claims, this is an excellent two person boat that can have additional people onboard for day use only.
George
Excessive port list is likely more of a problem than space for sleepers.
Remember this is a small boat with a narrow (trailerable) beam. The biggest problem we've experienced with the port side dinette is the prominent port list when four people are using the dinette.
Certainly, if you have two people in the dinette and two people in the cave berth, the boat will be dangerously unstable.
Our experience is that the dinette can comfortably sleep one small person and the cave berth is unusable as a sleeping area.
Notwithstanding the marketing claims, this is an excellent two person boat that can have additional people onboard for day use only.
George
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az9133bm":2oqck8da said:
I would agree.
Four of us for the day is great. We all sit at the dinette to eat, move around, etc. and just lean a bit. No big deal.
Not sure of the length of the dinette when it's made into a bed, but I'm 5'10" and I don't think I would fit comfortably.
One thought we've had since we enclosed our cockpit is to put an air mattress in the cockpit and use it as the bedroom - maybe even when there's just two of is. Then the bow area is storage and bathroom. But haven't tried that yet - just an idea at this point.
All that said, when we overnight with two of us, there is plenty of room and the leaning is not that noticeable.
My two cents...
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Hello. For what it's worth, here's some additional input to this conversation.
Regarding the dinette conversion to a birth; At 5'11", the only way I know to stretch out in this area is to rotate the forward backrest aft. When the backrest is at its mid-point, there is a sufficient gap underneath this backrest to slide your legs underneath. The bottom line for the R23 is that you can comfortably sleep adults 2 in the forward birth. On top of the dinette is less than ideal (for adults) and the birth below the dinette is really just good for storage.
Listing to port; My 2019 R23 has a constant list to port due to the installation of the Yamaha 9.9hp (120lb) pony motor. The list was uncomfortable whenever my wife and I sat in the dinette. There are surely better alternatives for ballast, but I solved it by purchasing a short, 22 gallon plastic garbage can with lid, and then I fill it with water when needed dockside. The size fits snuggly on the aft edge and under the railing on the starboard swim platform. Its very stable, and leaves a clear area to enter/exit the dock to the swim platform at the cockpit door. Before I get underway, I just dump it out. When traveling, I've either stowed it in the center floor locker, or it just stays in the cockpit area to stow loose gear. On fishing outings, I rig it as a live well. I've also left it dockside when I had that option.
For additional ballast, I stow a (dry) emergency generator in the starboard floor locker, just forward of the bow thruster battery and aft of the hot water tank. This helps offset some of the list created by the pony motor.
Regarding the dinette conversion to a birth; At 5'11", the only way I know to stretch out in this area is to rotate the forward backrest aft. When the backrest is at its mid-point, there is a sufficient gap underneath this backrest to slide your legs underneath. The bottom line for the R23 is that you can comfortably sleep adults 2 in the forward birth. On top of the dinette is less than ideal (for adults) and the birth below the dinette is really just good for storage.
Listing to port; My 2019 R23 has a constant list to port due to the installation of the Yamaha 9.9hp (120lb) pony motor. The list was uncomfortable whenever my wife and I sat in the dinette. There are surely better alternatives for ballast, but I solved it by purchasing a short, 22 gallon plastic garbage can with lid, and then I fill it with water when needed dockside. The size fits snuggly on the aft edge and under the railing on the starboard swim platform. Its very stable, and leaves a clear area to enter/exit the dock to the swim platform at the cockpit door. Before I get underway, I just dump it out. When traveling, I've either stowed it in the center floor locker, or it just stays in the cockpit area to stow loose gear. On fishing outings, I rig it as a live well. I've also left it dockside when I had that option.
For additional ballast, I stow a (dry) emergency generator in the starboard floor locker, just forward of the bow thruster battery and aft of the hot water tank. This helps offset some of the list created by the pony motor.
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It is very simple to make the seat back on the stern most dinette seat easily removable. I did this so that my daughter would have a better sleeping space. Basically, you change the nut and bolt out for a winged knob, some washers and a different bolt.
My daughter is small and there is no way that there would be space for another person on the dinette berth. Someone would not get any sleep as they would be worried about falling off ;-)
Our 23 is a great couples boat, and works as a small family boat, including a 55# lab. Others have had 4 on theirs for a week long cruise but it was cramped.
My daughter is small and there is no way that there would be space for another person on the dinette berth. Someone would not get any sleep as they would be worried about falling off ;-)
Our 23 is a great couples boat, and works as a small family boat, including a 55# lab. Others have had 4 on theirs for a week long cruise but it was cramped.
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