R25 New Build - 9.9 Yamaha for trolling or no?

Bulljon

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I’m back with another question. Since my previous post, I’ve been discussing a new build with Tim at Fluid Motion. One of the last remaining details is whether to add the 9.9 trolling motor or not. We are looking at installing a remote system that allows the 250 HP to be idle down far enough to achieve 1.5 mph. When fishing for Kokanee I like to troll down around 1.2 MPH. So it seems like it might be a bit of a stretch to think that maybe I could run that slow even with the adjustable remote. All of the other trolling that I do is at around 3 to 3.5 MPH. I am also concerned about putting excessive idle hours on the main. Not sure if this is a big issue??

Another consideration, is having a backup power source in case anything ever went wrong with the main outboard. There is peace of mind having the 9.9 available in an emergency. However, adding it clutters up the wraparound swim deck and requires a bit of a fit up to install the bracket.

I’m curious to hear from the fisherman out there. Thanks in advance for your replies.
 
I’m back with another question. Since my previous post, I’ve been discussing a new build with Tim at Fluid Motion. One of the last remaining details is whether to add the 9.9 trolling motor or not. We are looking at installing a remote system that allows the 250 HP to be idle down far enough to achieve 1.5 mph. When fishing for Kokanee I like to troll down around 1.2 MPH. So it seems like it might be a bit of a stretch to think that maybe I could run that slow even with the adjustable remote. All of the other trolling that I do is at around 3 to 3.5 MPH. I am also concerned about putting excessive idle hours on the main. Not sure if this is a big issue??

Another consideration, is having a backup power source in case anything ever went wrong with the main outboard. There is peace of mind having the 9.9 available in an emergency. However, adding it clutters up the wraparound swim deck and requires a bit of a fit up to install the bracket.

I’m curious to hear from the fisherman out there. Thanks in advance for your replies.
On our Solara 310 with twin 300 we troll for salmon on one engine at a time. It won’t get to your desired speed but there is a troll mode built in. It can cycle the engine in gear and out of gear to get down slow like you want. I would think the 250 could do the same.
 
On our Solara 310 with twin 300 we troll for salmon on one engine at a time. It won’t get to your desired speed but there is a troll mode built in. It can cycle the engine in gear and out of gear to get down slow like you want. I would think the 250 could do the same.
Nice, thanks for the information. I will talk to the guys at the factory, that feature would probably work great.
 
Yes, twin Yamaha 250 can do pattern shifting. You can do down to 2 mph. The auto pilot has issues below 40%. I have never run pattern shifting on single engine.
 
We have tried running pattern shifting when running just one engine out of two but it doesn’t work both engines need to be running. It’s silly Yamaha need to change that.
 
I doubt you will be able to troll as slowly as you want without adding the kicker. But you are right that it takes a chunk out of the swim platform. Please let us know what you decide.
 
I doubt you will be able to troll as slowly as you want without adding the kicker. But you are right that it takes a chunk out of the swim platform. Please let us know what you decide.
I will do it. I’m going to make a trip over to the factory and discuss it further. I’ve been told they have tested us down to 1.5. So I’m going to verify how it works before making a decision. Thanks to everyone so far who’s had a comment, appreciate the input.
 
It should be able to go down to 90 percent neutral and 10 percent in gear. If the f250 has the troll mode.
 
I’m back with another question. Since my previous post, I’ve been discussing a new build with Tim at Fluid Motion. One of the last remaining details is whether to add the 9.9 trolling motor or not. We are looking at installing a remote system that allows the 250 HP to be idle down far enough to achieve 1.5 mph. When fishing for Kokanee I like to troll down around 1.2 MPH. So it seems like it might be a bit of a stretch to think that maybe I could run that slow even with the adjustable remote. All of the other trolling that I do is at around 3 to 3.5 MPH. I am also concerned about putting excessive idle hours on the main. Not sure if this is a big issue??

Another consideration, is having a backup power source in case anything ever went wrong with the main outboard. There is peace of mind having the 9.9 available in an emergency. However, adding it clutters up the wraparound swim deck and requires a bit of a fit up to install the bracket.

I’m curious to hear from the fisherman out there. Thanks in advance for your replies.
If trolling for kokanee is your concern , have you considered and electric motor? I only start my 9.9 now and then to keep it fresh. If I needed a tow I carry Boat US. That said, we don't fish from our R27OB.
I do not believe you will be able to troll for kokanee with a 250HP motor effectively. We have a 9.9 on our fishing boat with a remote control for speed which is essential
 
I have looked into the electric motor option. I currently have a 36 V Minnkota Ulterra. It has the self deployed feature and his ideal for slow trolling and I know I’m going to miss the spot lock feature at times while fishing. I’ve only been able to find one instance where someone has installed a trolling motor and it looks pretty clean. It does require cutting the rail on the bow, however. I will explore this more deeply and let you know when I find out..
 
I posted about this topic in a previous thread, so I'll copy/paste that here with some additional comments thrown in:

We have a T9.9 kicker on our '21 R27OB, and for two reasons we would not be without one; #1 is that we troll a lot and #2 is that the cost of a kicker is cheap insurance to have another means of propulsion.

With the pattern-shifting feature on the main that Reel Salty Bliss and Nwdiver are referring to above, speed may no longer be an issue, but it was back in 2020 when we could only idle the F300 down to 650 rpm and then increase it in 50 rpm increments with Troll Mode. In some cases, you can't go slow enough with those limitations. We use an iTroll remote throttle on our T9.9 and the throttle resolution is awesome; from the helm we can increase or decrease speed in increments of less than 1 mph. But, lots of owners of FM boats catch plenty of fish by trolling with just a main. I don't know Nwdiver but I can tell you that Mike & Sarah are as fishy as they come and they have tons of experience.

A bigger issue for us is engine hours - we can easily put in 6-10 hours a day trolling. At that rate, I could be hauling and changing the fluids on our F300 every six weeks if the fishing is slow. Back in July during salmon season, we had about 30 hours on our most recent oil change on the F300 and the oil was turning dark. I don't know how many hours were on the T9.9 (both get oil changed at the same time) but I'm guessing it's was north of 60 hours in the same time period and the oil looked like it just came out of the bottle. I service both engines at 100 hours religiously but I would not have any issue going twice that on the T9.9 It's just more efficient to putt around at 2 mph with a kicker.

Maybe something else to consider - we sometimes troll in crazy currents in the Sound that can change directions in very short distances. Couple that with a ton of boats in a small area and you need to be very conscious of where your rod and downrigger lines are, particularly with the factory downrigger pads being more mid-ship. I've twice wrapped the port braided downrigger line in my kicker prop. Both times, the kicker stalled after the prop was sufficiently wrapped up. I maintained course with the main while I raised the kicker, removed the prop, and unwound the line. Put the prop back on and back to fishing. I think that's less likely to happen with the main given that it's centered on the boat, but I'm sure with the torque of six big cylinders vs. two small ones, there could be a lot of carnage if it did. Since that time, I've thought about how I'd do an in-water prop removal on the F300 and fun times would not be ahead. It may be easier on an R25 with the wrap-around swim platform, though.

Regarding redundancy, modern outboards are very reliable. I'd guess that fuel contamination would be the most likely cause of a failure of your main engine. Fluid Motion uses the same fuel tank for both outboards, so your kicker would be affected as well, unless you carry another source of gas. But other issues can happen that aren't related to fuel. We had an incident in which our F300 shut down in Puget Sound and would not restart. That's a helpless feeling, to have no means of control while drifting into a ferry lane. Having a kicker allowed us to regain propulsion and move the boat where we wanted, not where the wind and tide wanted.

I've seen some comments that a kicker would be ineffective in severe weather. We've been on the kicker in 15-20 knot wind and still had control. A big issue with short, steep "square" waves is that the kicker prop comes out of the water briefly when the boat crests the wave. That said, if you told me I was headed out into a gale and that my primary engine would randomly quit at some point, then gave me the option to have a kicker or not, the answer would be easy...I'll take the kicker every time. Anything is better than nothing.
 
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