Rather get tug 21ec or a C-Dory 22

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Hello everybody
So, I've read just about everything I can about both boats, all about speed,.space, comfort,
fuel consumption, etc!! And still not sure.
So lets hear from my Rangers, A Ranger tug 21ec or C-Dory 22.
Thanks
 
Now that you've read everything that you can on both boat, your decision should be easy. Make a list of everything you want or need in a boat and prioritize them in order of importance to "you". Easy.

I looked at both of these as well and the final selling feature for me was the "looks" of the R-21EC. For me, one look and I was sold. The C-Dory didn't stand a chance. For you the main feature may be the speed. If so the R-21 is not your boat.

Make your list and check off the features you want. Only you can decide..

Good luck,,
 
I had a C-Dory and I have been on the R-21. Two different animals. The R-21 is nicely appointed and good for moving along real slow. The C-Dory is utilitarian and a much faster boat. In chop it does slap and bounce when going fast. My maximum time on the C-dory was one week then you needed a break. You can pull up on a beach and sand bars without an issue since it has a fairly flat bottom. Buy the boat that meets most of your needs and wants and then the twofootitis will begin! 😀
 
A lot of good discussion about this on the C-Brats web site. I would just say they are very different boats so your comparing (apple's to oranges.) Since your looking at the R-21 would indicate that your looking used vice new so the prices would be fairly close. If your the kind of guy that can drive to town going 35 mph with your left turn signal on than the R-21 might fit your needs. I was looking at the
C-22 when I found my R-21 I liked the fit and finish on the Rangers better than the C-Dory, that said I'm the guy that drives 35 mph with my turn signal on! Bob
 
A lot depends on how you plan to use the boat.

I owned a 22 CDory for 4 years, took it down the inter coastal from Maryland to Florida and tried to use it to cruise on the Chesapeake Bay. In open waters on the Chesapeake I did not find it very useful if there was any wind at all. After my wife fell out of the Admiral’s seat in 8 to 12 knots of wind, it was time to either install seat belts & shoulder harnesses or trailer to the area of the bay we wanted to cruise. We chose the latter. The v-berth was adequate for sleeping 2 adults although the head room was lacking. For hot & humid summers we purchased a small portable A/C at Walmart for $100 to keep us cool overnight in port. The A/C easily installed in the center window during port time and was removed for cruising. Overall, IMO, the boat was adequate to cruise in somewhat protected waters or relatively calm conditions in open waters for up to a couple weeks. After that we would need to get off and stay on land.

I have been on a RT 21 and IMO it is a good day boat for cruising on protected waters. I can’t see how my wife and I could stay overnight. The boat is much slower than the CDory, again a lot depends on how you plan to use it.

These are my opinions of the boats and I am sure others my agree or disagree with me. Boats are a very personal choice and are driven by ones comfort and the desire they have for a boat.
 
Most people have a distinct preference for either an outboard or a diesel inboard. That will most likely be the obvious difference between a 21tug and the 22 C-Dory. 21 Tugs will have either the Yanmar or Volvo...early and late year ones are Yanmar..take your pick...
 
I have a 21-EC and my wife and I take it all over the Puget Sound and San Juan islands. We trailer it sometimes to save time if we only have a weekend. This makes up for the slow speed, which is realistically about 6.5 knots on average. We came from sailing, so this is fine. We sleep on it but it’s tight. We never use the head. We get a ton of compliments because it really is the best looking boat around. The red hull requires a lot of attention. It’s pretty seaworthy. We’ve had it in seas coming over the gunnels and it did okay quartering the waves. We were scared as hell. Bilge pump handled it, thank God.

If you want to get anywhere fast, or do much fishing, you probably want a c-dory. If you want to cruise and look fly as hell doing it, 21 all day.
 
Keep an eye open for a C-Dory Venture 23, circa 2008. That was a build right before the impact of the GFC. Could possibly have been worked on by Geoff Messmer and Andrew Custis just before they joined RT. A very different animal to the 22 it was/is almost 1000 lb heavier and came well finished, comparable with RT. Ours had twin 60hp Yamahas and was complete with such niceties as a Wallas cooktop/diesel heater (that I really miss now we have the Kenyon), hot water, ECR setup, Galvanic Isolator, charger etc.. We wanted a boat that would cruise nicely at 12-14 knots but that would open up and do 25 when needed. We had done the deep-V with nothing practical in terms of speed between 6kts and 18. The main reason to change to the RT 25SC was to get the separate head away from the V-berth. This boat has the ability to do the cruise speed but not the top end, has a lot more home comforts and a lot more complexity/maintenance. The Venture was more a cork than a bulldozer in heavy weather but I felt at least as safe.
 
We loved our 2005 CD-22 cruiser. We owned her for 13 seasons. Totally reliable, very seaworthy, she handled rough waters well. We took her all over the Salish Sea as far north as Winter Harbour, Princess Louisa, Desolation Sound down to Olympia. They are very versatile boats, can be used for both cruising and fishing. I believe our longest cruise was around 10 days.

Sure you needed to slow down in chop over 2 feet or the boat will pound due to the flat dory bottom but still you're talking dropping to 10-11 knots in most cases. Our averagecruising speed was around 16-18 knots, plenty fast enough. Plus I really like the classic lines of the CD-22 vs. the 23 Venture.

I 've never been on a RT 21 so I can't really make the comparison, I'm sure it's a fine boat. But I would buy another C-Dory 22 in a heartbeat given the chance.
 
My wife and I have owned a 2006 Venture 23 since when we retired in 2012. According to Andrew, who has been on it, it was one that he built when the molds were still owned by Cape Cruiser. Before we arrived at our decision we spent many (many) months going back and forth about 3 boats: the C22, and Ranger Tugs 25 & 21. We loved the look and interior of the 25 but because our plan was to trailer it to cruise various parts of the US, buying a 25 also meant buying a truck since we didn’t have a tow vehicle for that sort of load. Plus, the 25 was much more to launch and retrieve. So we then focused down to the C22 and 21EC. We loved the look of the 21, and the fuel efficient diesel, but finally decided the interior was just a bit too tight for living on weeks at a time. We don’t fish so our focus was room and comfort, and a head that allowed some sense of privacy and waste storage. We liked the C22 for those reasons. Additionally, while we don’t go fast we do like the ability to zip along at a comfortable speed when we have 50+ miles to cover. So our search focused down to a C22, but then we saw our first Venture model and that was it. Sounds funny to say it’s roomier than a 22, but for us it is. And the hull design is much better when cruising thru slop. We have since cruised much of the East Coast, the PNW, part of the Mississippi, lakes, etc.... spending many weeks at a time living on the boat and encountering all sorts of waves and weather conditions. We love the boat and have full confidence in its build and handling. As fun as the 21 looks, it would not have allowed us the same degree of interior comfort, plus for us it’s lack of cruising speed - such as when heading up the lengthy ICW - would have really slowed our trip. With all that said, we still love seeing the 21, and other RT models, and have a plan for a larger one...

Rob
 
We just finished with the same question...C Dory or Ranger 21. We went with the Ranger and glad. I really wanted an inboard diesel. We have been on a sailboat for 37 years and have another on order that is taking a while to get so we are used to a solid 6-7 knot boat. The interior finish on the Ranger is much nicer and of course the overall look is just darn cute! We are using in moderately protected water in winter weather running between islands several days a week in the San Juan Islands and it has just worked out fine with no regrets. You have to want the go at a moderate speed and be happy with it. I enjoy being able to pay attention to all the trees, rocks and beauty.
What would have made a C Dory the right choice: Need for speed and open water where there is not much to see.
Also if we needed a boat with a regular dinette or place for 4 to sit. Ranger 21 is a great 2 person boat and in the good weather a great 4 person party boat.

We are only using this boat as a bridge between sailboats as we live on an Island and need to go to the store and have fun on the water. We will most likely be selling it this Summer if anyone is looking then. If it is to be sold, we will post it on Tugnuts.
 
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