RE: YANMAR 4BY2 SERVICE BULLETIN

[baz]

Herb:

I'm pleased you were able to replace the Oil Sensor line successfully. Reading your posts reminded me of my own experience doing this task on our Classic R25 (posted earlier in this thread). It was the Andrew's-straightened wire coat hanger that did the trick for us by using it to hold and position the copper washer between the engine and the lower banjo connector -- much like for what you did. Ours took a full 4 hours to complete. At first it took almost an hour at the start simply to figure out just how to approach the task and gain access to the hidden oil pressure sensor line.

Of course the real test will be after running the engine hard out on the water for several hours to convince me there are no leaks caused by this activity. Oil pressure typically is close to 80 psi when oil is cold and falls to around 50-60 psi when oil warmed up. I shall be peeking through my cabin step into the bilge area directly below the oil pressure sensor line for quite some time periodically just as a check... 🙂 At this time this bilge area is bone dry and white clean, so it will be very apparent if oil is dripping down.

 

[Randy & Ida]

"Adventurer", our R-25 Classic is scheduled for Tuesday, June 19th to have the oil line changed out by Cap Sante Marine Sales & Service (Anacortes, WA). I have been told "Dale" will do the work. He was the one who did the work on "Willies Tug" and is familiar with the requirements and "problems". I spent the better part of an hour with the office staff yesterday and explained some of the differences between the R-27 and our R-25 Classic. They were very helpful and said that "Dale" had the magic "tool" to do the job.
Approx. 3 to 4 weeks ago I started to try and have MER perform this service but this came to naught after they contaced Yanmar reference the 1.5 hour, one man job situation. I suggested that they read all the posts here on this site about the time needed, difficulty, and the one vs two person requirement prior to coming up to do the work. I was told that Yanmar would not budge on the personnel/time issue.
I have had good service from MER in the past and would recommend them in the future. For those of you who have used MER in the past, "Bobby" no longer works there. This will work out better for us having a local Yanmar Dealer/Service center.
Randy & Ida

 

[ngleadow]

Hi all;
Yesterday I had the oil pipe replaced on our R25 "Classic". It took about two hours, but with some ingenuity and the experiences of other R25 owners documented in this forum, the job is done. Lying on my belly, I shone a light through the fuel shutoff inspection hatch and could clearly see the lower banjo nut. Gerry (GHarris Diesel in Gibsons) put the socket wrench with a long extension on the nut with my carefully rehearsed directions (he couldn't see the nut).. "stern 1/4 inch, up an eighth. starboard 1/2inch" etc., and got it off without too much trouble. The ingenuity came when putting the nut back on. To keep the washers in place (the innermost banjo stayed in place on the engine block, so we didn't have to fiddle with it) Gerry threaded wire through the last hole in the nut. When we got the nut back in position, using the commands above, I removed the wire and the job was pretty well done.

Thanks to all of you for your various suggestions. Hope this one helps.
Cheers

Norm on Blue Socks

 

[Randy & Ida]

"Adventurer" has now had the Yanmar oil line recall completed. Cap Sante Marine Services technician "Dale" along with another employee spent almost five hours replacing the line. The folks in the front office commented about the difficulty in replacing the line on a R-25 Classic as opposed to the R-25SC and R-27's.
Cap Sante Marine Services were very helpfull, friendly, and professional to deal with and I would not hesitate to reccomend them to anyone needing this or any other service done on our "Tugs". As a matter of fact, there is a blue hulled R-25SC sitting in their yard awaiting to have the same work done now.
Randy & Ida

 

[baz]

Took our R25 Classic (4BY2 150 engine) out for the day yesterday as weather was sunny and seas calm. This was first outing after the oil pressure sensor replacement had been performed. So as seas were calm I was able to open up the engine to WOT for periods of time to test the oil line replacement for leaks etc.

I ran the boat at close to 3800 RPM for 30 mins and then varied the RPM from 2000 to 3400 for longer periods of time.

SUCCESS -- no visible oil leaks and the engine ran like a champ... especially so without any chatter from loose engine beauty plates. Last time I had engine service several of the bolts holding the beauty place secure were not completely seated, and this lead to a nasty harmonic noise at around 2800 RPM -- took me several attempts to isolate the cause which turned out to be the beauty plates in the end. My advice to anyone with the 4BY2 150 after an engine service that requires the beauty plates to be removed is to check for all the bolts being seated down completely. You can check this by using your fist to pound on the plate(s) and listen for any metal-to-metal noise that shouldn't be there or to simply press down on the plates and observe any movement under each bolt head.

 

[D & C M]

I have a 2010 R25 that needs the oil pipe to be changed. My boat was been with the nearest Yanmar agent for the last two weeks, they have the replacement part and have looked at the problem. Could anyone with an R25 who have dad the replacement completed give hints as to how can the pipe be fitted short of removing the engine :?: I have only been able to run the boat for two hours this season, the first only to go from the nearest ramp and its Home port. During that trip there was a alarm whenever the engine was run over 3000 rpm. On the return trip rpm was kept to 2500 without any alarm. From other postings on this subject it would appear to be essential to have the oil pipe replaced.
Dave and Chris

 

[walldog]

I have a 2010 R25 that needs the oil pipe to be changed. My boat was been with the nearest Yanmar agent for the last two weeks, they have the replacement part and have looked at the problem. Could anyone with an R25 who have dad the replacement completed give hints as to how can the pipe be fitted short of removing the engine :?: I have only been able to run the boat for two hours this season, the first only to go from the nearest ramp and its Home port. During that trip there was a alarm whenever the engine was run over 3000 rpm. On the return trip rpm was kept to 2500 without any alarm. From other postings on this subject it would appear to be essential to have the oil pipe replaced.
Dave and Chris

I believe if you look at the previous posts in this thread you will find not only hints, but detailed procedures for replacing the oil line. It is not easy, but it is do-able.

 

[South lake]

Dave, I can appreciate the issue. Our 2010 R25 took hours to have the oil pipe changed and required two people.

If I were in your shoes I would reach out to Andrew at Ranger Tugs and Yanmar for assistance in getting attention. It's a Yanmar warranty responsibility and they certify the techs. If the people who have your boat are certified by Yanmar and are unable to effect the replacement, then Yanmar needs to take whatever action is necessary to support you.

It's their responsibility.

 

[walldog]

Absolutely get Andrew involved, two weeks thinking about it is long enough. If no other recall experienced Yanmar facilities are near, Andrew will work with the one you are at to point them in the right direction. Email or call Andrew.

 

[baz]

I sure hope that Andrew is actively training a co-worker as Andrew is but one person servicing 100s of Ranger Tugs / Cutwaters these days. With that Person/Boat ratio it must me a tremendous strain on Andrew delivering the quality attention to everyone calling him. A person can only do so much... and Andrew somehow continues to deliver miracles to us.

Just a thought for Jeff to consider. 😉

 

[walldog]

I sure hope that Andrew is actively training a co-worker as Andrew is but one person servicing 100s of Ranger Tugs / Cutwaters these days. With that Person/Boat ratio it must me a tremendous strain on Andrew delivering the quality attention to everyone calling him. A person can only do so much... and Andrew somehow continues to deliver miracles to us.

Just a thought for Jeff to consider. 😉

I do not know about others, but Kenny Marrs can work on my boat anytime. Kenny is a great asset for Ranger Tugs and is very capable to take up the slack.

 

[baz]

I sure hope that Andrew is actively training a co-worker as Andrew is but one person servicing 100s of Ranger Tugs / Cutwaters these days. With that Person/Boat ratio it must me a tremendous strain on Andrew delivering the quality attention to everyone calling him. A person can only do so much... and Andrew somehow continues to deliver miracles to us.

Just a thought for Jeff to consider. 😉

I do not know about others, but Kenny Marrs can work on my boat anytime. Kenny is a great asset for Ranger Tugs and is very capable to take up the slack.

Yes -- Kenny helped me get my boat out of the water a month or so back to take to factory to have an area of the hull's gelcoat repaired. He seemed very skilled and knew a lot about the Ranger Tugs. He used his time with me to also help fix problems on another R25 a few slips down from where we dock. I suspect he's also helping out Andrew address after sales and service issues. Maybe we call him Andrew #2... 😉

 

[Bruce Moore]

I sure hope that Andrew is actively training a co-worker as Andrew is but one person servicing 100s of Ranger Tugs / Cutwaters these days. With that Person/Boat ratio it must me a tremendous strain on Andrew delivering the quality attention to everyone calling him. A person can only do so much... and Andrew somehow continues to deliver miracles to us.

Just a thought for Jeff to consider. 😉

I do not know about others, but Kenny Marrs can work on my boat anytime. Kenny is a great asset for Ranger Tugs and is very capable to take up the slack.

Yes -- Kenny helped me get my boat out of the water a month or so back to take to factory to have an area of the hull's gelcoat repaired. He seemed very skilled and knew a lot about the Ranger Tugs. He used his time with me to also help fix problems on another R25 a few slips down from where we dock. I suspect he's also helping out Andrew address after sales and service issues. Maybe we call him Andrew #2... 😉

Kenny's the man. Andrew is to be commended for the great job he's done training him. But, let's call him Kenny! And, IMHO, I'm confident Jeff considers all of this very actively.

 

[baz]

Kenny's the man. Andrew is to be commended for the great job he's done training him. But, let's call him Kenny! And, IMHO, I'm confident Jeff considers all of this very actively.

Yes, I agree to naming him "Kenny"... 🙂 However, do we have implicit authority to call him as we do with Andrew? Is he assigned to duties similar to Andrew's ? I have Andrew in my Contacts list but hesitate to call Kenny even though I have his Cell number.

What's the answer to this ?

 

[Bruce Moore]

Kenny's the man. Andrew is to be commended for the great job he's done training him. But, let's call him Kenny! And, IMHO, I'm confident Jeff considers all of this very actively.

Yes, I agree to naming him "Kenny"... 🙂 However, do we have implicit authority to call him as we do with Andrew? Is he assigned to duties similar to Andrew's ? I have Andrew in my Contacts list but hesitate to call Kenny even though I have his Cell number.

What's the answer to this ?

Ask Kenny.