Removing “Eyebrows” 2012 R27

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CaspersCruiser

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I have compounded, buffed, polished, waxed the fiberglass eyebrows on my boat many, many times. It’s just about impossible to keep the looking nice for very long. I’d like to remove them from the boat and have them painted. Before I start this project, I’m looking for guidance on how to do this from the factory or from someone who may have accomplished this task before.
 
I just had my 2011 R29 painted. The yard did the eye brows, hull and cabin stripe. They did not remove the eyebrows to paint. So, i suggest that you can find a local painter that can paint your eyebrows in place, even easier if you have a trailer.
 
Hi there,

A quick recommendation before you go through all the trouble of removing the visor, here's one last thing to try: whenever gel coat has oxidized over a period of time, there comes a point where no amount of polishing will keep it shiny. You'll need to resort to wet sanding the area lightly with 1000 grit to remove the oxidized layer. Not knowing the condition of your boat, I recommend starting on a small area of your choice (the "inconspicuous" cliche applies here 😉 ) and sanding it out to get it smooth. Once you do, you can polish it as you normally would and see what results you get from that. Also, by "smooth" I mean that it will not be shiny, but smooth to the touch instead of gritty. I think you know what I mean. Just be careful to sand lightly and remove as little gel coat as possible. Also make sure you keep the area where you're sanding wet and rinse properly when you're done.

When you first polish out the sanded area, use a compound to polish out the sanding "dullness" and then go to a finer polish to get the gloss. Hope this helps get you started but let me know if you have any additional questions.

Cheers!

Ralf
 
fishheadbarandgrill":3w0pxlnd said:
I just had my 2011 R29 painted. The yard did the eye brows, hull and cabin stripe. They did not remove the eyebrows to paint. So, i suggest that you can find a local painter that can paint your eyebrows in place, even easier if you have a trailer.
When I had the hull painted in 2022 at Huckins Yacht in Jacksonville, including the eyebrows in the job raised the cost exponentially because of the extra labor and prep required. A couple days ago, I inquired at a local body shop that also does a lot of boat and RV work about painting them on the boat. They said it is not economically feasible and suggested I remove them from the boat.

I’ll keep looking.
 
Bill,
I'm with you removing and painting the faded gel is the way to go BUT! There may be some headaches involved with that. I looked at removing the brow on my C26 after three years. It was white so not as noticeable with fade as a color but it never looked good, always blotchy after a month in the Sun. It is a shame that a 5 to 12 year old boat requires refinishing. The boats built in the early days of Fluid Motion or Ranger Tugs were built with substandard resins and Gel products. Cheap products that looked good but had no longevity. They didn't skimp in the build process just the products used. They were a small company building pricy boats and needed to have a profit. That is what they are in business to do! So if you have a 2018 to 2008 or older Ranger/ Cutwater keep the buffer handy and plan on buffing or spend the money to get it painted. The good news is Fluid Motion (Ranger Tug, Cutwater) Are named as members of the American Boatbuilders Association now. So late model production boats will be built with better products because they have an objective to buy engines together, buy raw materials, manufactured products, equipment, and services together to reduce costs and leverage buying power. What that means is they are now able to use products that quality boats builders use. Examples: Chaparral, Robalo Boats, Correct Craft, Everglades Boats, Grady White, Blackfin, Parker Offshore, Regal Marine Industries, S2 Yachts, Tiara to name a few of the boat manufactures in this group.

Bill my advise try one more approach. Similar to Ralfs suggestion but no wet sanding. Why? Because you have probably done several tries at buffing and the gel is going to be thin. My suggestion is use Marine 31 products. I have had good luck using theses because they are aggressive but less likely to damage the surface. Marine 31 sells heavy cut compound. This does the same thing as wet sanding but reduces the chances of burning through. Once you have cleaned the gel with this there will be fine scratches, Use the gel coat final step polish to remove the fine scratches and polish the gel. This polish doesn't dry so there will be a slight haze when you have completed the buff. It keeps the gel lubricated for the final step. Use the Marine 31 Carnauba wax and sealant for a final step. After you are done, look at the finished product. If it looks good then you have the option of applying a ceramic coating to help preserve the shine or go on the cheap and use the Mequiars ceramic detailer. Spray on following instruction. I used this method. Apply this once a month on my boat (all gel coat) It takes me about 2 hours to do my complete 34' Mainship. We did the complete Loop last year and the boat shined like a new boat. I had folks ask me when did Mainship start building boats again. They thought my 20 year old boat was new. The finish on the Mainship is better than the finish on my Cutwater when it was new. 20 year old gel coat not fading or blotches after 14 months of cruising. It did get an application once a moth of the detailer. I was lucky to get 3 months when I owned the Cutwater. I like Marine 31 products. Give it a try . If it doesn't work do what most Ranger tug owners, do look at faded finish or paint.

Good Luck with getting shiny eyebrows ! 😀
 
Another option to paint - vinyl wrap. Recently saw a single engine airplane that completely wrapped in a complex pattern and looked fantastic. Painting the airplane would have been $15K but the wrap was $4k per the owner. I know wraps don’t last forever but for a small section like the eyebrows it might be economically feasible.
If anyone out there has wrapped the eyebrows could you provide feedback?
 
Thanks for all the replies. I want to do something so it looks presentable.

Al Thomas— Back in 1981, a guy I was acquainted with masked off the stripes on his Cherokee and sprayed them with Krylon. It actually looked pretty good…….for a little while.
 
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