retrofit costs for OEM options..

[Kaisardog]

we have been looking for our dream ranger now for a year, considering everything from the R31 to the R 25s. the options we 'd like include the following. can anyone advise on what the retrofit cost vs factory OEM is would be for these options we like?

Mase generator
kyocera solar
garmin nav package
webasto
bimini
aft enclosure
AC w/ reverse heating
transom platform w/ stainless rails and gate

the only one that may be a difficult aftermarket add on is the webasto, from what i've read...

thanks !

Thanks !

 

[ALICE J]

On my R27 I installed the 2000 series Wabasto behind the galley sink accessible by removing the stove. Ran the hoses to fwd stateroom, salon (outlet next to hot air heater under helm station, and into the head. Cave is not heated.I insulated the hoses to reduce heat loss. My experience so far from Florida to SE Alaska, and Sierra Nevadas is I can get approximately 20 degree heat rise in about45 minutes, augmented by cooking with the propane. Where I found a lack of heat was at high elevations when the temperature was freezing in the morning (33 and 35 degrees), I could still only get the cabin up to maybe 60 plus degrees and with both burners on high in the propane stove after a hour running. I always ran the Wabasto at full on.

 

[cruz-in]

I do not want to redirect this thread, but I feel compelled to comment.

Heating (or augmenting heat) in a small space with a stove burner(s) has so many potential safety issues (fire, carbon monoxide production, oxygen consumption, etc.). Just a really dangerous and bad idea.

 

[Levitation]

So, you are saying that a Webasto is dangerous and shouldn't be on a boat.
Ya might want to clarify that - for various reasons.

 

[CaspersCruiser]

So, you are saying that a Webasto is dangerous and shouldn't be on a boat.
Ya might want to clarify that - for various reasons.

I don't believe he was commenting about the Webasto, but rather the use of propane stove burners as a source of heat.

 

[cruz-in]

So, you are saying that a Webasto is dangerous and shouldn't be on a boat.
Ya might want to clarify that - for various reasons.

1) M comment was on the use of both burners of a propane stove for heating. I could have been more clear.

2) Where do you get I said anything "shouldn't be on a boat". Please reread my post. I said the burners (propane) should not be used for heating a small space.

 

[Scuffy]

I think Ranger installed options while might seem expensive they come with an insurance policy. Andrew Custis, who is familiar with all of the factory installed options and can provide you with a wealth of information. And if he can't; he can get some one who does in short order. Ranger's wiring practices are the best we have ever seen compared to the other boats we have owned. They do things right as they do it a lot. I think they are constantly looking for ways to build a better boat. Their name is on the boat they want to do things right. Not to mention Ranger Tugs pull with their suppliers because of the amount they purchase. Any marginal warranty issues are met with Andrew saying I'll call the supplier blankety blank and I'm sure they will take care of it. I think they are one of Garmin's largest customer in the U.S. In most cases installing items after the boat is built are a major hassle. Integrating them into existing systems supplied with the boat could void your warranty with Ranger. I would ask your dealer what options they might be comfortable in installing. The Webasco I would think most dealers could install. I would think a dealer would be willing to offer some discounts on factory installed options to reel in the sale. Just my opinion here. I would have you canvas work done locally by a reputable canvas shop to personalize your boat.

 

[ALICE J]

This is Alice J sitting in Death Valley, CA with the temp at 102 degrees at 5:00 PM , and perhaps my brain was frying but, I agree with the danger of CO from propane, but the point I was making; albeit sloppily, was the 2000 Wabasto is inadequate for temps below 40 degrees so one might consider the 3000 if prolonged cold is to be endured; but keep in mind if you cut back on the heat control you risk clogging the burner, it's a comprise. My intent was to assure that after market heat was available either as a diy or local installer

 

[NorthernFocus]

Mase generator
kyocera solar
garmin nav package
webasto
bimini
aft enclosure
AC w/ reverse heating
transom platform w/ stainless rails and gate

the only one that may be a difficult aftermarket add on is the webasto, from what i've read...

Not sure where you got your info but the heater isn't that hard to install. Generator and nav package are much more involved.

 

[Irish Mist]

If you find "the boat" and it is missing a few of your required options you can add them or alternatives fairly easy. I found installing diesel heat took about a day.. One of my most used things in the boat.. I just set thermostat and it works.. Had it keep the boat at 70 on the trailer when it was below 0 outside . As for a generator I would personally look at a portable option as built in is awesome but very expensive to add. And for A/C I would go for a carry on that just goes in a roof vent. It will run off a Honda 2000 or an inverter .. An alternative would be a roof mounted built in unit . Easy install and works out of the water no winterizing. Putting on the factory type is doable but will be costly.. Adding the electronics would get you up to date stuff which being electronics is always getting better and faster.. There are some awesome people out there that can make anything happen but it all comes at a cost..
Good luck in your search

 

[NorthernFocus]

If you find "the boat" and it is missing a few of your required options you can add them or alternatives fairly easy. I found installing diesel heat took about a day.. One of my most used things in the boat.. I just set thermostat and it works.. Had it keep the boat at 70 on the trailer when it was below 0 outside . As for a generator I would personally look at a portable option as built in is awesome but very expensive to add. And for A/C I would go for a carry on that just goes in a roof vent. It will run off a Honda 2000 or an inverter .. An alternative would be a roof mounted built in unit . Easy install and works out of the water no winterizing. Putting on the factory type is doable but will be costly.. Adding the electronics would get you up to date stuff which being electronics is always getting better and faster.. There are some awesome people out there that can make anything happen but it all comes at a cost..
Good luck in your search

All excellent advice. My experience with the Webasto install is similar. Not a tough job if you're a DIY type. And in our climate we wouldn't leave home without it. Also has the side benefit of air ducting keeping cabinets toasty and dry for storing tortilla chips 😀

The integrated nav system is pretty nice but if retrofitting you can the same functionality for a fraction of the cost with a laptop and a couple hundred dollars worth of software.

When we lived down south on a sailboat we went the route of the AC mounted on a hatch. In winter we took it down and put it in storage. No claptrap in mechanical space and bilge.