Torqeedo Travel 1003 S/L Setup & Operating experiences

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Per another menber's suggestion I'm starting a new post/thread that focuses just on the setup and operational experiences for the Torqeedo motor 1003 S/L. I grabbed one or two of my posts from another thread for starting this one.

There are at least two other TugNut members who have received this motor so maybe they can contribute here. 🙂
 
Mine (Model 1003 L) arrive at 3pm today May 20th 2010. The shipping box measured 4' by 16"x16" and weighed it at around 45 lbs per the UPS shipping label.

I set it up in my hallway using the plastic box the propeller was housed in to hold it in the vertical position -- very handy. 🙂

I connected the removable tiller arm and the battery and the battery charge level was at 13%. I immediately connected the charger at 3:16pm and will observe just how long it takes to get up to 100%. 😉

On the face of it the motor looks well constructed in typical German style. 😉

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Motor in vertical position using the propeller box that was in shipment container

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Battery charging started at 13%. The percentage value flashes on and off.

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110v to 12vdc adapter connected for charging battery. The red LED flashes on/off while battery being charged.

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Transom attachment details

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Closeup of the shaft's top and rotating tiller / battery.

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Underneath of tiller arm (the tiller arm completely removes for easy stowage

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Tiller arm rotates and operates a device as shown here that connects to motor. Forward and reverse are available.
 
After 1 hour the charge level went from 13% to 21%. Thus I would expect 100% to take another 10 hours to be reached.

Thus if battery at 0% a full charge would take some 12.5 hours.

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There are two things that are bothering me at this time...

1. My motor does not have the attached protective flap for the battery's charge-socket. I'm assuming I'll have to Email Torqeedo for advice about this.

2. The small plastic fixing bolt (to fix the steering) -- cannot figure out where this should be inserted. There are no instructions that I can find in the Operating Manual that describes how this bolt is to be used.

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OK -- I finally figured out where and how the small plastic fixing bolt is used. It is used for "fixing the steering". 😉 This is explained in just one place in the Operations Manual -- page 15. The bolt is optional for fixing the steering.
 
Here are a few more pics...

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Tiller arm's display panel. Note that the readings are large but the units are very small and quite difficult to read IMO.

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Documentation for setting up the Display values/units etc

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Battery charging socket port. Note that in my case the rubber flip cap is missing. See next picture.

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Picture taken from Operations Manual showing the rubber flip cap for the battery charging socket port.

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Picture taken from the Operations Manual showing where the small orange plastic fixing bolt to fix the steering is to be inserted.

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The dead man line. Very much like you have for a treadmill so that motor cuts off if operator moves away from the motor too far.
 
I just called Torqeedo Service line at 815-444-8806 to discuss the issue of the missing rubber flap cap for the battery charge-socket.

The service technician was very informative and explained that the rubber flip cap is no longer needed because the charging port is itself water proof and protects the battery from water. The company found that if they installed the rubber flip cap it would render the port to be not waterproof any longer and would not protect the battery from water seepage. So they decided to not install it. The Operations Manual is in error.

The only concern is that dirt, sand or other material might lodge inside the port and suggested finding a rubber cap to slip over the port if customer found that to be a problem.

For me, I'll simply lay a small piece of duck tape over the port until I find a more appropriate covering.

The service person said there's no need to register the product -- just keep the dated invoice as proof of purchase for any warranty work.
 
I did some testing of my Torqeedo 1003 today in a 55 gallon drum of water. I only took it up to about 150 watts of power consumption because otherwise all of the water would fly out of the tub 🙂 It seems to work fine...not as quiet as a trolling motor because of the gearing, but not anywhere as loud as an outboard.

I let it run at 50 watts for about 45 minutes and it was down to 91% capacity. That seems quite reasonable. I then connected it to a 12V battery and charged it back up to 100%....so cool that you can directly charge it from a normal battery. It must have a wide input range DC-DC converter inside the battery casing (along with the gps and whatever else they put in there). If the motor were not so new I would look for a dead or used battery on ebay so I could take it apart and see exactly what they have in there.

I have very high hopes now of solar sailing...ie, when the sun is out and the wind is not I can cruise along at a few knots using my 170 watt panel and this motor 😀 Typical when the weather gets nice and sunny in the summer Puget Sound the wind goes to nothing.
 
KTP":22o5p5jv said:
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I then connected it to a 12V battery and charged it back up to 100%....so cool that you can directly charge it from a normal battery. It must have a wide input range DC-DC converter inside the battery casing (along with the gps and whatever else they put in there).

...snip...

How did you connect (i.e., the wiring connection to the charging socket/port) the 12v battery to the Torqeedo battery charging-socket port ?
 
I went to http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/downloads/manuals.html and downloaded the Operating Manual PDF file and have installed this on my iPad along with my PNW Charts&Tides application. 😀 I use GoodReader on the iPad to view the manual. Now I have the manual in electronic form and close at hand if the hard copy gets lost or mislaid somewhere. Nice... 🙂
 
Arranged stowage for my Torqeedo motor today and found it would fit very nicely into the starboard side cockpit locker. When stowing it I found I had to only remove one existing item.

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Note: This post refers to a Torqeedo Travel 1003L (long shaft). In the photo the propeller end of the shaft sits out of view in the rear of the locker.
 
FYI... After I had received confirmation from Torqeedo service help desk that there was no use for a cap for the battery charging socket there was a follow up enquiry they had for me.

They asked...

"If you turn around your tiller and look at the bottom side of it, you should see two plastic plates holding the tiller handle in place. What color do they have and how many do you see? Are there two plates on top of each other, so in total four?"

I have no clue about why there's a question about the color of the plastic plates, but I do have a total of four (4) plastic plates as shown below. I've sent these photos back to the Torqeedo help desk person and await their response.

The first picture shows the underneath of the tiller arm and the two stacked white plastic plates held by two screws. The second picture shows quite clearly that there are two white plates at each location stacked on top of each other.

I'm suspecting the need for TWO plates at each location is for added strength -- but I could be wrong about that.

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Sea Trial...

http://web.me.com/barrysharp/Barrys_Site/Torqeedo_Motor_Sea_Trial.html

Be aware that in this photo gallery there are two or three movies. Two of them are sizable at around 1 minute and 6 minutes in duration. The longest one shows me removing the Torqeedo motor and the technique I use for raising my Portland Pudgy onto the R25's swim step. My son was with me to help with things and learn about operating the mptor and dinghy lowering/raising.

Just to be safe and to avoid being on the wrong side of Capt. Mac we both wore life jackets for the short sea trail. 😉
 
Love to see the sea-trial Barry, but the file is not available.
 
Bruce Moore":1osdz7rz said:
Love to see the sea-trial Barry, but the file is not available.

Yea -- movie files are simply too large. I'm working with QuickTime to trim things down a bit. Hang on and I'll get things ironed out in a short while. I will edit the original post when I'm done with a different link.

OK -- finally... my above posting has been updated with a link that works... 🙂
 
Nice job Barry. Looks like a great solution and installation. Love the clean and quiet qualities. Breaks down nicely.

Cheers
 
Hey Bruce: If you d/l the latest Charts&Tides application on your iPad you will note that ActiveCaptain has added the black T marker. Tapping on it will produce the local Tide info for that location -- a great addition. I showed the App to my son yesterday and he was amazed with it all. It (the iPad) can sit angled up on the navigator's desk/sill and allow the navigator to see almost everything displayed on the Garmin screen -- as well as all the other things the iPad does so well.
 
Yes, it's a nice incremental improvement. I don't want to hijack you Torqeedo thread, as I look forward to your ongoing discoveries. But, there are also black C markers which show currents. Nice.

Cheers
 
baz":9o6kiwco said:
FYI... After I had received confirmation from Torqeedo service help desk that there was no use for a cap for the battery charging socket there was a follow up enquiry they had for me.

They asked...

"If you turn around your tiller and look at the bottom side of it, you should see two plastic plates holding the tiller handle in place. What color do they have and how many do you see? Are there two plates on top of each other, so in total four?"

I have no clue about why there's a question about the color of the plastic plates, but I do have a total of four (4) plastic plates as shown below. I've sent these photos back to the Torqeedo help desk person and await their response.

The first picture shows the underneath of the tiller arm and the two stacked white plastic plates held by two screws. The second picture shows quite clearly that there are two white plates at each location stacked on top of each other.

I'm suspecting the need for TWO plates at each location is for added strength -- but I could be wrong about that.

...photo images were snipped...

I had a reply from Torqeedo service dept today. They indicated the two plastic plates (one on top of the other) is the latest revision. So check that you also have these two plastic plates installed in the tiller arm.
 
I took out my Montgomery 17 sailboat with the Torqeedo 1003 Saturday. We had such great wind that I barely used it...we raised the sails in the Port of Everett channel just a few hundred yards from the launch ramps. It seemed to work fine, at full power it pushed us at close to 5 kts which is about what the 2.5hp gas outboard does. It wouldn't run very long like this though...maybe 20 minutes. At a more reasonable 400 watts input it pushed us at 3 kts into wind. I hooked it via a 12V lighter plug while we were sailing and after an hour it had recharged from 91% to 100%.

I am having a maybe big problem though. I noticed the motor is twisting in relation to the tiller arm (I am not talking about the normal way you would rotate the motor/prop using the tiller). I assumed out on the water that it was just the two allen screws at the top of the Torqeedo needed tightning but after calling Torqeedo and having them suggest the same thing I tried it and the motor still twists in relation to the tiller arm just as bad. I am waiting for the tech support guy to call back so I can get a resolution. I am afraid the connecting shaft is twisting down near the motor or perhaps there is another clamp to tighten inside the aluminum fairing around the shaft?
 
KTP":2z68irb7 said:
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I am having a maybe big problem though. I noticed the motor is twisting in relation to the tiller arm (I am not talking about the normal way you would rotate the motor/prop using the tiller). I assumed out on the water that it was just the two allen screws at the top of the Torqeedo needed tightning but after calling Torqeedo and having them suggest the same thing I tried it and the motor still twists in relation to the tiller arm just as bad. I am waiting for the tech support guy to call back so I can get a resolution. I am afraid the connecting shaft is twisting down near the motor or perhaps there is another clamp to tighten inside the aluminum fairing around the shaft?

KTD: Keep me/us posted on this issue. I've not noticed this problem but will pay closer attention next weekend when I'll test drive my Torqeedo 1003L again. I'm wanting to improve on the C clamp as the screw caps are far to close to the top on the inboard side of the transom.

BTW -- how's your C clamp working out ?
 
OK -- I've now developed a means for ensuring the clamp cups do not slide off the Portland Pudgy's transom. I will update this post with photos and explanations later.

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My approach was to find a simple and easy assembly solution to ensure the motor and its C clamp assembly would not twist off the transom with the resultant loss of the motor to the deep.

Parts used:
1. Approx 12 inches of galvanized pre-drilled metal angle bracket (just laying around in my garage 😉 )
2. Stainless Phillip head screws and washers larger than holes in the metal angle bracket(less than $5)

Here's a photo of the Portland Pudgy's transom fitted with a sturdy steel plate that stiffens the transom and provides a strong surface for the screw cups to push on. You can easily see the area where the screw caps press onto this steel plate near the top of the transom from their scuff marks -- they are just too close to the top of the transom for my comfort. Note that this steel plate can be removed via the 4 black plastic embedded nut toggles shown (this is a stock item for the Pudgy). Behind this steel reenforcing plate sits a solid gray plastic plate with V shaped ends. The gray plastic plate can be removed after the steel plate is removed by sliding it up out of the transom.

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This photo shows me holding the pre-drilled metal angle bracket sawn to length ready for me to screw down onto the top surface of the transom.
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This photo shows how the angle bracket overlaps the top surface of the transom and leaves a gap that is sufficient for the clamp cups to slide up into. (sorry about it not being in focus)
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This photo shows the angled bracket after stainless screws and washers used to fix it to the top surface of the transom.
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Finally, this photo shows how the steel angle bracket allows the screw caps to be positioned under the vertical angle of the bracket. The cups simply cannot move upwards and off the transom without of course pulling the steel angle bracket off.
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Another photo showing the screw caps positioned under the bracket. I may need to place two more screws in through the bracket closer to where the screw cups engage the bracket just to be sure it all holds together when motor running flat out.
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Rear view showing how the motor C clamp's rear surface is correctly flush with the transom's vertical surface -- as it needs to be.
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Photo showing that the vertical shaft is at the perfect 90 deg angle with the water level. 🙂
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Job completed.
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With the dinghy held fast to the swim step via the davits I slowly applied motor power to test how well the steel angle bracket resisted the motion of the screw cups to move upwards. It did a good job and gave me great comfort the motor should be safe from twisting off into the water. This was a more severe test as normally the dinghy would be free to move forward under power and would therefore exert less twisting on the transom and the C bracket.

I did get an unexpected bonus from this steel angle bracket. Because of it being angled it adds bending stiffness to the transom -- much like for the stock steel plate is designed to do. Apart from maybe adding two more stainless screws and washers I think I'm done with this project. 😎
 
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