Towing, Launching Ranger 25,27,29

Sea Jo

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When we get closer to retirement we realize we want more comfort in a boat but also ability to maybe go to Bahamas ,Alaska ect. I have a F-350 2011 6.7 diesel so towing power is covered, use this truck for hauling Lance truck camper. Question is there that much difference in towing ,launching ect the 25,27,29 ? Of course 25 would be easiest how much does 2ft then 4ft in size make when towing ect? Im sure big weight difference. Guess im looking for advise as to which to set sights towards. Do Ranger 29 owners keep them in same slip for season mainly or do you guys tow them multiple locations? Guess triple axle trailer. Are 25 and 27 dual axle trailers? The more room would relate to more nights on the boat.Guess we need to go to a boat show and see them for sure. Just looking for any insight from owners. Have only owned 2 boats ever biggest being 23 ft. Thanks
 
When buying a boat consider the maintenance costs for keeping in water and on the hard (open and covered slips), underwater zinc replacements, bottom painting every 3 years if kept in water, engine, state taxes, Insurance for boat and trailer.

Trailering and storing boat out of the water lessens the overall maintenance costs, and if you can DIY engine maintenance that's a big savings also.

Think about where you want to cruise and figure out the typical annual fuel costs for going to the places.

Manual vs. electric head is another important decision IMO.

If you have 4-legged friends then think about them as well... will they be happy ?

Think about V-berth vs. Island berth. Important for people who struggle and have pain twisting their bodies about.

Good luck.
 
You're right, that truck is just right, I myself tow with a 2003 F-450 7.3 Crew Cab 4X4. The differences in boats begins in my opinion with the 29', island bed in separate room is the plus, ten foot beam means permit in each state which is the minus, additional weight you have covered with that tow vehicle.

It's just the wife and I (and four small dogs!) so we're fine on our 25', I replaced the two axle trailer it came on with a triple axle and really really improved the way it goes down the highway! Also, the triple trailer took the bow from being four feet from my bumper to ten feet which really helps keep me dry on the retrieval. Keeping it on the RV pad at the house and doing my own maintenance saves me hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars! I mean hundreds!

My feeling is the way to move a boat is by land, 60 MPH in air conditioned comfort and don't forget it's habitable on land also, it's a trailer that happens to float. Put a hose in the sink outflow and into a bucket and trailer parks are a second option while trailering. We bought a stepladder (steps not rungs) at Home Depo and pull it up in the evening, it's like raising a drawbridge, folks outside are ten feet below!

To make costs worthwhile, we use the boat at least once a month, tow to new location or back to old favorites, try for places within four or so hours of home, there's dozens so we're lucky, Spend two weeks at Christmas at Powell, Willow Beach, Lake Mojave, Laughlin, Havasu, very enjoyable! What's really fun is the evenings when the marina dockworker folks leave, the place is yours and you can break all the rules, dogs off leash, fish, howl at moon, run with scissors etc.

We used to excursively go camping, we have a Host camper with a slide, very comfortable but the crowds at the campgrounds have changed or perhaps I've gotten older so now we go where we're behind key lock gates with our own private security, (Harbor Patrol) surrounded by a crowd that's actually a bit more upscale than we are!

I've learned that it's actually pretty easy to fit in, fill your glass with ice, pour in half a finger of the good stuff, wander down the dock to the next boat party and sooner or later somebodys going to insist on refilling you! Works like a charm!
 
Your truck will pull well. We have an F250 4x4 diesel and have found it pulls our R27 with ease.

If I got a do-over, I'd go with a triple axle trailer as Tugnnaweigh has said.

The 27 has been fairly easy to maneuver thru boat ramps, truck stops and campgrounds.

I know there are Tugnuts who tow their 29's across country with ease, but the wide load permit process may put off some folks.

We just found it so simple to just be able to hook up and go with the 27.

On the boat test, a big component for me was towing the boat, launching and recovery. Maybe there's a dealer in your area who'll let you do that on a test drive.

If you haven't already, check out Jim and Lisa Favors web page.

Good Luck!
 
Anther consideration with the 29 is the weight when towing and your rating on your drivers license. In Ontario Canada I found you need a heavier rating on your truck and license.. All do able just a bit extra money.. Also if you tow legally and get permits you have to stop at all scales when they are open ( they usually just green light you through ) and you are in some states, not able to drive weekends or holidays.. And no night driving.. Having said all this I have spoken to a few people who do not get permits and just go for it.. Being as you are a personal recreational vehicle not for hire.. Unless you get pulled over by someone in a really bad mood you will probably get off with a warning if you are respectful to the officer..
Even if you do not tow anywhere , being able to pull your boat out of the water yourself to clean or do work is a big savings..
As mentioned check out all the boats.. If you can get by with a 25 I would get one as there is a big savings dollar wise and as others will tell you , very live able.. It all will depend on your use..
Good luck and keep us posted
Mark
 
Get the smallest boat you can feel comfortable living on. All the boats you mentioned can be towed with your vehicle easily. My wife and I went with the 27. We feel that it is the sweat spot of the fleet. The cabin and the cockpit are very comfortable for the two of us and when we tow the are no issues with having to get permits. Let's face it, as the boat gets bigger the towing can be a little more difficult and the other expenses are a little larger as well. Would we like a 29 (classic) of course, but the other reasons I mention trump the bigger boat.
 
Larry,
We felt the 27 would offer the most boat we wanted to tow. With larger models requiring permits and no night travel towing would be deal breaker for us. If you just wanted a dock yacht and occasional cruise much cheaper alternatives abound. The towable feature of the R- 27 kept us from buying a Nordic Tug 32/34. We liked the Nordic Tug a lot. But not being able to pull it around much less pull myself to do maintenance or take it somewhere of my own choosing killed the dream of a Nordic tug in this lifetime. We are happy with our 27 although they do require some TV and FM antenna upgrades as well as a learning curve to get used to all the systems. We also did a 4" memory foam berth upgrade. We also aren't fond of the supplied canvas covering the cockpit. A trip to the canvas shop for a full camper type enclosure is in our near future and in blue not Army tan. It's like a Florida room especially nice in the rain and will allow us to keep a the rear table and cushion on as the weather won't be able to affect them
We are happy with or dual axle trailer. When we first pulled it home from Florida it seemed to bounce the rear of the truck a lot. I felt that the boat was balanced on the trailer a little too well and hitting a bump would cause the boat to bounce and seemed to be lifting the weight off the truck and that would gradually settle back down. I moved the bow stop forward three inches and the bouncing stopped. A little more weight on the tongue and a little less on the rear. We also put bunk slides on the forward half of the trailer as you can't really crank a 27 up to the bow stop unless the boat pretty much floating. Even if you to drive boat up to the bow stop leaving the ramp and as the boat settles on the trailer a gap appears between the bow stop and the bow. This requires a panic stop of sorts to get the bow back on the bow stop. The bunk slides on the forward half of trailer make this an easier task. This is just my take. Lots of us tow with a single rear wheel 3/4 or 1 ton trucks. Me not being a Ford guy really have been pleased with a 2500HD Chevy with the Duramax Allison transmission combination. Good luck on your mission to find true happiness in the boating world. Bring money!!
 
My wife and I think the sweet spot for extended cruisers that can still be reasonably trailered by average human beings is the R 27 or C 28. Make sure you get a triple axle trailer, loaded for cruising these babies can approach 13,000 lbs with the trailer and you don't want to worry about unloading, how much fuel and water is on board, etc. we started with a double axle and it is an experience not to be repeated in traffic or on the interstate. The extra brakes and payload of the triple makes all the difference. By all means go to the R 25 if you are comfortable with the layout but our C 28 is a dream on two week outings and pretty similar to the R 27 in all respects.
 
I have an R25 specifically for the ease of towing a comfortable but slow fishing boat. Ramps are a big issue with launching. If possible always check the ramp before showing up with your boat. Even with 4 wheel drive the increasing levels of algae and slime build up on ramps can be a problem. Arrange to pull the boat at close to high tide for less slippage coming out. I float my boat on ( R25) then adjust the location as it pulls out with the extendable pole based on lines drawn on the fender (ez load dual axel trailer). Tightening the winch to pull the boat tight to the roller never quite works as the boat always slips back when fully out of the water. I wet the bunks with vegetable shortening to aid in sliding the boat forward with the 7 mile per hour brake slam on the hard, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. This might not be a problem with a different trailer setup. I have another tie down arrangement that pulls the boat down on the forward roller after it Is as tight as I can get it. Don't over tighten the winch, it is not made for the kind of loads you can apply by maxing out your muscles, (had to replace one already). So all in all there are issues with taking the boat out but are not difficult if you are prepared for them. There are photos of some launch helpers at the end of my photos page if interested.

Towing the boat has everything to do with roads, road conditions and traffic. As an example I will never tow my boat through Portland, Seattle or other large cities unless it is after 10pm. I would rather tow in the dark than through traffic. 98% of drivers have no clue that when they cut you off in traffic if they had to panic stop you would roll right over them. I use a Dodge 3500 with dual rear wheels for added safety and stopping ability. In normal conditions you hardly know that you are towing an almost 10000 lb load behind you. I had a trailer tire blow out on the elevated roadway on I5 in Seattle and I think that the dual wheels paid for themselves right there in the extra stability in keeping the trailer straight until I could get off the roadway.
 
Hi Dave, thanks for info. Thanks to all that replied learned a lot from a few posts already. Didn't know about permits with 29. Would like to learn to do oil changes and other doable maintenance on my own. Just want to learn about Ranger tugs so down the road can make a wise choice. I know we want boating to be a big part of our future recreation.We have a couple dogs to bring along sometimes. Like others always thinking of next upgrade,even though were happy now with our boat. Would be nice to have shower and toilet and more room. So it gives me reason to work and save for it. Really like the looks and usefulness of Ranger tugs.
 
I'm a new owner with C30. Launch and retrieval created a lot of anxiety for my wife. Our initial launch went quite smoothly. The boat simply floated off of the trailer and we tied her down. Retrieval was a little trickier, trying to get her up to the front roller. But, we are out of the water, waiting for our trip to Anacortes/Roche Harbor. The boat handles like a dream and is easy to maneuver.

Permits are another story. We have heard many horror stories about permits. Including the gentleman who delivered the boat from us from Florida. Just yesterday I was told that I would not be able to tow Splash through town without a pilot car and that we would receive a $600 ticket. Later that evening I got the permit. The boxes were checked "no pilot car".

I agree with go as small as you can. We are coming off of bigger boats, and the 30 was as small as we could go.

Ram 3500 single. Out of the water in 4wd low was easy.
 
Bel Canto,interesting post thanks for advice.
 
Just a follow-up. Got pulled over. Deputy mad that he couldn't find anything wrong. Wrote a ticket for rear view mirrors that I will fight as I believe he is wrong.

Please get permits for a wide load tow. Those who don't make it harder for those of us who do follow the rules. Never actually stopped at a weigh station, either closed or green lighted.
 
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