Venture trailer for R-27

[ragman]

Is anyone using a Venture 2 axle trailer with surge brakes to tow their R-27? If so, are you happy with the trailer, do the brakes work as expected? What tow vehicle are you using? Finally, what is the height of the bottom of the trailer tongue from the ground when it is level?

thanks

 

[Boatdreamer]

Hi Ragman, we are using a dual axle Float-On trailer with hydraulic/electric brakes for our R27. We are happy with it so far. We tow it with a 2012 F-250 4X4 with the 6.7 diesel engine. This combination works well for our needs. The longest trip was from the west coast of Florida to our home in Stuart. I know we have a lot of others on Tugnuts that have towed many thousands of miles, I'm sure they will chime in on your questions too. Good luck with your new Tug, you will love it.

Tim
Gratitude R27

 

[knotflying]

The only issue I see with surge brakes is if you plan on doing trailering with long hills and mountains. Going down hill with surge brakes could wear out the brakes pretty quickly.

 

[ragman]

Hi Ragman, we are using a dual axle Float-On trailer with hydraulic/electric brakes for our R27. We are happy with it so far. We tow it with a 2012 F-250 4X4 with the 6.7 diesel engine. This combination works well for our needs. The longest trip was from the west coast of Florida to our home in Stuart. I know we have a lot of others on Tugnuts that have towed many thousands of miles, I'm sure they will chime in on your questions too. Good luck with your new Tug, you will love it.

Tim
Gratitude R27

Hi Tim,
Thanks for the reply. What hitch did you replace the stock one with? My F250 XLT had a limit of 6,000 lbs total trailer weight without a weight distributing hitch. I replaced it with a much beafier hitch (16,000 lbs without WD).

I presume your hitch receiver is the same height as mine (about 16"). What ball mount did you need to tow your Venture? It looks like I need between a 2 and 4 inch rise. Which do you use?

thanks
W

 

[wefings]

As a longtime Ranger Tug dealer , I have never been impressed in any way with Venture Trailers, on anything we sell . Float on is our favorite . There are other good trailers , but we have done our design homework with Float On and their service is great .Torsion axles and stainless hardware mean more than "mag wheels "
Marc

 

[knotflying]

Ditto Mark,

Float-on has great service and a great product.

 

[Boatdreamer]

Hi ragman. I didn't change out the hitch on the truck, but it might be something I look into when we start doing a lot more towing. I bought a DT aluminum 2" drop ball mount rated at 14000 lbs. it keeps every thing nice and level. Sounds like your trailer sits a little higher than the Float-On does. I did see a custom made chain mount for an aluminum trailer with a weight distribution setup, but ours tows so well, I'm not going to mess with it. Did you buy the dark red R 27 that Wilde had on Yachtworld? If you did, great color choice, that's the color of our Gratitude, gets a lot of attention.

Tim

 

[RProffer]

If I remember right, the R27 is too much boat for surge brakes. I believe surge brakes are only good for single axle trailers with light loads. Two or more axles need more braking power like hydraulic/electric brakes. Believe me, when you are towing 7-8000 lbs at 60 mph and you need to put the brakes on hard, you need all the brakes you can get. Surge brakes are for light loads. Check your state laws for trailer brakes.

 

[ragman]

thanks for all the replies

We don't plan on long trips over mountains, and I'm told it is not too hard to convert from surge to electric/hydraulic. Might be worth the expense.

Yes, this is the one from Wilde. At first the hull color would not have been our first choice, but we have come to like it very much, especially since we bought her on the full moon which is sometimes known as the red moon. Therefore, her name is Luna Rossa.

We bought a hitch from e-trailers that is rated at 14,000lb without WD. Our ball mount has a 3 inch rise to accommodate the tongue height of the trailer.

Thanks again

 

[knotflying]

Found this on the Internet.


Massachusetts
Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs. shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.

 

[ragman]

Found this on the Internet.


Massachusetts
Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs. shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.

I calculate that we will be just under 9,300 lbs with full fuel and water tanks, personal gear and trailer.

 

[Don and Brenda]

Note, that is unladen weight, meaning an empty trailer. This does not apply in this case.

Don

 

[PhilR]

I hauled my 19' C-Dory on a venture trailer, but for my Ranger Tug I bought a Float On and would recommend that you do the same. It's a well designed, quality trailer.

Phil

 

[Todd]

Don't know where you got your information but Federal Motor Carrier regulations require breaks on all wheels of any trailer with a GVW of 3,000 lb or more. To get around this you would have to prove your trailer predates this regulation.

I will agree that a private boat on a private trailer pulled by a private vehicle driven by the owner, and not crossing state lines may be able to get around these regulations but do you really want to. You will be a lot safer with functioning breaks.

 

[Don and Brenda]

Todd

If you are responding to my comment about does not apply that is the portion on air brakes and electric brakes, this is a reference to commercial trailers. Of course he needs brakes depending on the state and total weight of the rig, this varies by state and number of axles. The manufacturer will build it to the states requirements.

Don

 

[Dennis7366]

2013 R-27 on a Float-On Model 1431ABB (GVWR 13680, TRLR wt 1645, NET cap 12035) twin axle, electric over hydraulic disc brakes, all aluminum and stainless, 16" 8 lug galvanized wheels, ST235/80R16 tires, Dodge Diesel 2500 HD 4WD, factory hitch, top of the ball is 23" off the ground. Happy, Happy, Happy!
PS. If the 2 inch receiver/tow bar 1/16" clearance slap gets to noisey or you just want a little tougher link up I do use a----- http://www.roadmasterinc.com/products/a ... quiet.html.

 

[Levitation]

I have mentioned before that LOADMASTER trailers of Port Clinton Ohio builds a quality product.
Look in the photo album of Levitation.

 

[Dale777]

Found this on the Internet.


Massachusetts
Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs. shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.

I calculate that we will be just under 9,300 lbs with full fuel and water tanks, personal gear and trailer.

Ragman,

Your calculation indicates that your weight of R27 (with full fuel and water tanks, personal gear) and trailer will be about 9,300 lbs. This seems to be much lighter than my actual weight with the same boat and a very light, all-aluminum Float-on trailer.

For my R27 on a Float-On trailer (model 1231-ABB dual axle, electric over hydraulic disc brakes), the actual weight as weighed on truck stop scales is:

10,320 lbs for trailer plus R27 with 50 gallons of diesel, empty water tank, empty holding tank, a small amount of personal gear VERSUS your calculated 9,300 lbs.

The Float-On trailer itself weighs 1,274 lbs which is included in the 10,320 lbs (for R27 and trailer). The trailer GVWR is 11,274 lbs, so the net carrying capacity of the trailer is 10,000 lbs. So, with my R27 I have a margin of safety on the weight rating of the trailer that is 954 lbs (11,274 minus 10,320). And, to be safe, I would not load up the R27 with more fuel, water and waste than indicated on my truck stop scale weighing.

 

[ragman]

Found this on the Internet.


Massachusetts
Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs. shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.

I calculate that we will be just under 9,300 lbs with full fuel and water tanks, personal gear and trailer.

Ragman,

Your calculation indicates that your weight of R27 (with full fuel and water tanks, personal gear) and trailer will be about 9,300 lbs. This seems to be much lighter than my actual weight with the same boat and a very light, all-aluminum Float-on trailer.

Dale, you are probably correct. I'll have to wait and see once I get the rig on the scales. I am a big fan of CAT scales. They are accurate and re-weighs when adjusting loads are just a dollar (or something like that).

We take delivery on Tuesday. Will spend most of the day getting orientation then will do a shake down cruise from Essex, CT (where the boat is now) to Greenport, NY on Long Island. Just 25 miles As of now the weather looks perfect, light winds, no seas.

As you might imagine, we are very excited.


For my R27 on a Float-On trailer (model 1231-ABB dual axle, electric over hydraulic disc brakes), the actual weight as weighed on truck stop scales is:

10,320 lbs for trailer plus R27 with 50 gallons of diesel, empty water tank, empty holding tank, a small amount of personal gear VERSUS your calculated 9,300 lbs.

The Float-On trailer itself weighs 1,274 lbs which is included in the 10,320 lbs (for R27 and trailer). The trailer GVWR is 11,274 lbs, so the net carrying capacity of the trailer is 10,000 lbs. So, with my R27 I have a margin of safety on the weight rating of the trailer that is 954 lbs (11,274 minus 10,320). And, to be safe, I would not load up the R27 with more fuel, water and waste than indicated on my truck stop scale weighing.