Visiting the RT's R-23 factory assembly plant on Thursday

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This coming Thursday, I and my son will be visiting the RT's factory where the R-23s are assembled/built. I plan on taking some photos and asking lot of questions.... 😉 If there's a particular photo of something you want me to capture post back or PM me. 🙂 Unless it's an RT 'trade secret...' I'm sure it will not be an issue. 😱
 
Have a great time! We went to the Monroe factory last fall where the R-29's are built and took a bunch of photos. It's really cool seeing how the boats are built.
 
I wish I could join you as I am considering a RT-23 also. Any and all pictures you can take and post would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Jim Peck
 
Scuba Too":3vwhqekd said:
Have a great time! We went to the Monroe factory last fall where the R-29's are built and took a bunch of photos. It's really cool seeing how the boats are built.

So far I've visited the Monroe (R-29s and up ... and I witnessed the first R-29 being built), Kent (R-21, R-25, R-27) and now the Auburn R-23 factory on Thursday. 😱 It is very informative to see how the boats are made and assembled and if you get to actually see 'your' boat being made, assembled and put together it's even better and can be a record for your archives etc. So far I've witnessed seeing my R-25 (Classic) and R-21EC being built. Capturing the wire runs makes for good records. 🙂

From my experience the workman love to see and speak with customers of their boats.
 
Wow. That's exciting. After about 8 months of ownership, I can vouch for Ranger being an A Plus factory. Love my 23!


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I would be interested in any and all pictures you can take! We have ordered our R23, due for delivery at the end of June. We are very interested in how the wiring is done and all other things that are not visible once the boat is completed. Thank you in advance for any photos you can share!
 
Barry,
I would be very interested in seeing everything below the floor. Locations of the water tanks, fresh and black and how all the plumbing is routed. Pretty much anything that will give a hint as to where things are located and run after the floor goes in and walls go up. I know you will ask lots of questions. Take notes and have fun!
John
 
Greetings Barry,
I recently traded in my R21EC for an R23 Diesel. As a R21 owner I just did not like the look of the outboard. Interestingly when I looked for pictures of the R23D there were no pictures of the Cock pit. Understanding that the Diesel engine takes up more room because it is an I/O in the cock pit ( as in the R12EC) please ask why there are no pictures posted or any videos of R23D to include the cockpit. All the photos are of the Outboard.
I am waiting for delivery in a few weeks.
Thank you

Juan
 
Looking forward to your notes and pictures!
 
HudsonRanger15":35c7lnzx said:
Greetings Barry,
I recently traded in my R21EC for an R23 Diesel. As a R21 owner I just did not like the look of the outboard. Interestingly when I looked for pictures of the R23D there were no pictures of the Cock pit. Understanding that the Diesel engine takes up more room because it is an I/O in the cock pit ( as in the R12EC) please ask why there are no pictures posted or any videos of R23D to include the cockpit. All the photos are of the Outboard.
I am waiting for delivery in a few weeks.
Thank you

Juan

You should check directly with RT about this. Very few R-23s with stern drive have been sold which may explain the lack of stern drive model-specific photos on the RT web site.
 
sleepyboat":1ivhqerr said:
Barry,
I would be very interested in seeing everything below the floor. Locations of the water tanks, fresh and black and how all the plumbing is routed. Pretty much anything that will give a hint as to where things are located and run after the floor goes in and walls go up. I know you will ask lots of questions. Take notes and have fun!

John
olygirl":1ivhqerr said:
I would be interested in any and all pictures you can take! We have ordered our R23, due for delivery at the end of June. We are very interested in how the wiring is done and all other things that are not visible once the boat is completed. Thank you in advance for any photos you can share!
Add us to that list!!
have fun
mark
 
Today my son and I spent 2 hours with Andrew who gave us an excellent tour of the R-23 Auburn factory assembly areas. It was very informative and learned quite a lot. Andrew is such a friendly person willing to answer all my questions and concerns.

The first thing we came across was a new R-* on a trailer and from the size of it to me I was sure it was the new 2018 R-27.... but no, it WAS an R-23 outboard model. It looks so much bigger out of the water and on on a trailer. 😱

I posted some 70 photos here https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0iGI9HKKGHWW1S and hopefully they are self explanatory. If not let me know.

The one photo that does need some explanation is one that simply shows a round hole. This photo was taken to show how thick the transom has been made for attaching the Yamaha outboard's pod to. The thickness must be close to 3" and does taper off in lower & upper areas.

The hull is really beefed up with about 1" more buildup which can be seen as rectangular sections in some of the photos. I walk along the hull's side and push hard and found no deflections at all. Faster boats require sufficient strength as forces increase with velocity squared ( expressed as in v**2).

Also note the change for attaching the kicker motor. The ~$300 welded steel bracket is no longer employed. The swim platform now has a built-in detent which is filled with a piece of starboard held by four screws from the underside. Now when installing the kicker motor all that needs doing is for the starboard cover plate removal and attaching a sturdy molded component that the kicker motor can be bolted to, and then replacing the starboard cover plate to fill the detent again - making for a smooth surface on this area of the swim platform. Thus, for boats without the kicker motor chosen optionally at purchase time, but wanting the option to have it later can be done without having to order the previous $300 steel bracket.

Another snippet from Andrew was that the V-berth cushions are now one more in number than before. The large sleeping sections were one piece including the wrapped bow portion. The bow section is now a separate piece so removing the sleeping side cushions to access the under storage area has made things a lot easier.

Not sure if this is a new feature, but the trim tab pistons are driven electrically and not hydraulically. No more hydraulic fluid tank required along with no tubes being needed etc. Time will tell about the longevity of the electric motor driven pistons vs. the hydraulic ones. With seals breaking down and water getting to the motors over time should be something to watch out for.

Andrew and I chatted about having a cockpit table. One idea that surfaced was to simply place a pedestal pole bracket identical to what the table pedestal pole uses in the V-berth on the center cockpit hatch. Thus, all that now would be needed when wanting a cockpit table would be to remove the table in the V-berth and install it in/on the cockpit floor. The shape may be a little off, but nonetheless, you obtain the cockpit table option for a mere few dollars for the extra pole bracket.

The underwater lighting feature had me a bit puzzled prior to seeing how it was achieved in the factory. The lights are positioned on the ends of the trim tabs and face aft and slightly down. I would assume they make for a cool look into the water at nighttime for seeing the fish and critters moving about, as well as providing some safety for people taking midnight dips around the boat's stern in warm waters. I wonder if the lights can be made to flicker and/or change colors periodically. 😱

A useful feature is provided for the Yamaha outboard 200HP for flushing fresh water through the engine when returning from salt water to the dock/slip. With the engine raised, there's a connection on the port side that can be simply disconnected and a fresh water hose attached to flush the engine with fresh water... Andrew indicated this takes but a mere 5 mins of time. It's this type of attention given by Yamaha that makes the outboard attractive from a maintenance aspect.

I'm guessing the Yamaha outboard's cooling is provided by raw water circulation and with additional air cooling. I say this as the raw water outlet on the starboard side of the engine is all of 1/8" in diameter. Not too much water flow can be achieved with such a small orifice, so I'm thinking substantial engine cooling has to be provided by air circulation.

I tried my best to capture as much wiring as was possible between chats with Andrew, which as you can imagine was ongoing for 2 solid hours. 😱 🙂

There are several photos I captured showing the Webasto diesel heater installation. The 3 gallon fuel tank is the bright shiny aluminium custom welded tank with a small copper tube running down to the heater box. Fresh air is drawn into the heater and heated air exits in large black pipes to the cabin and V-bert areas. The tank does not have a level indicator. The red covered pipe is for the heater's exhaust fumes. There's a coiled copper pipe that is teed to the heater's exhaust pipe which is for collecting condensate from the exhaust line.
 
Thank you for posting your pictures, I really appreciate them. I think your pictures have convinced me if I buy a 23, it will be worth a trip from Maine to the factory to see one being built. Nothing like seeing one being put together to understand the systems involved.
 
Great pictures. I'm afraid that the complexity of the wiring and plumbing might have scared me away if I had seen the pictures first. One thing is for sure: I'm going to slow down in chop from now on. I now have an indelible image of connectors, conduits, hoses, valves, and chafe points in mind...
 
mcphersn":1zdk2dg6 said:
Great pictures. I'm afraid that the complexity of the wiring and plumbing might have scared me away if I had seen the pictures first. One thing is for sure: I'm going to slow down in chop from now on. I now have an indelible image of connectors, conduits, hoses, valves, and chafe points in mind...

Yes, viewing the electrical wire harnesses can be a bit daunting. I suspect over time we shall start seeing these harnesses morph to a single wire much like done on many autos these day where each component in the car listens on the single wire for information for them and ignores data meant for other components. For this to happen all the various components (radio, bow thruster controllers, autopilot controllers, lights, horn, wipers all have to be able to listen for their own data/instructions.

After seeing my R-25 and R-21EC being built I'm unfazed by the wiring. Your chafing issue is a good point and is not ignored/lost on me.

Those wire harnesses in the photos were with things in an untidy state. They will be or should be tided up some when being covered up and become out of sight. The wire routes should give people some idea where not to drill at least.
 
ixlr8":21rnz4me said:
Thank you for posting your pictures, I really appreciate them. I think your pictures have convinced me if I buy a 23, it will be worth a trip from Maine to the factory to see one being built. Nothing like seeing one being put together to understand the systems involved.

I'm lucky to be close to all the Ranger Tug factories. When I purchased the R-25 (Classic) and the R-21EC I was at the factory to inspect them at various stages of construction. If I saw something that concerned me I brought it to the attention of Andrew or the factory foreman and it was resolved in short order. 😎 😀
 
Good job. Valuable info ! Would love to see similar stuff for the R-27 (new or old photos).
I know it must exist, either in a personal collection or in the factory archives. I understand what a large task it would be to upload and maintain such a database, but the value to owners is great.
 
Wow, great pictures!!! Thank you so much for sharing.
 
Great pictures. Anybody have some photos of an R21 being built?
 
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